Can Factoring Out a Negative One Affect the Convergence of a Taylor Series?

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The discussion centers on the convergence of Taylor series, particularly in relation to functions with negative terms and the implications of factoring out a negative one. Participants explore the conditions under which a Taylor series can be considered equal to its corresponding function and the methods for determining convergence.

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  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether factoring out a negative one from a series affects its convergence, suggesting that treating the remaining terms as a positive series could allow for convergence determination.
  • Another participant agrees that the radius of convergence must be explicitly stated to claim that a Taylor series equals the function it represents.
  • It is proposed that the ratio test can be used to determine the interval of convergence, although this does not guarantee that the series sum equals the original function.
  • A counterexample involving the function f(x) = e^(-1/x^2) is presented, illustrating that a function can be infinitely differentiable and have a Taylor series that converges to zero everywhere, yet not equal the function for any x ≠ 0.
  • Participants discuss the implications of evaluating the Taylor series at points other than zero, questioning the validity of comparing the series and the function in those regions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of the radius of convergence and the use of the ratio test for determining convergence. However, there remains disagreement regarding the implications of convergence on the equality of the Taylor series and the original function, as illustrated by the counterexample presented.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights the complexity of convergence in relation to Taylor series, particularly in cases where functions exhibit unusual behavior, such as the counterexample provided. The implications of convergence tests and the conditions under which series represent functions remain unresolved.

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First of all if i have a function with all negative terms is it possible to determine its convergence simply by factoring the negative one, treating the other terms as a positive series determine its convergence then assume that multiplying by the constant negative one will not change its convergence.

Second, one cannot say the taylor series is equal to the function whose taylor series has been determined unless one states explicitly the radius of convergence, true? Can one use the ratio test to determine the interval of convergence or does one have to use the remainder, i.e. Lagrange form or another, and see if it goes to zero as n goes to infinity to determine convergence:
[tex]R_n(x) = \frac{f^{(n+1)}(\xi)}{(n+1)!} (x-a)^{n+1}.[/tex]

thanks
 
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First part: yes, true.
 
Use ratio test to determine interval of convergence. But that does not show that the sum of the series is the original function. There is some example with [tex]\exp(-1/x^2)[/tex] illustrating this.
 
why is it that even if it converges the sum of the series is not the original function?
 
The function g edgar gives:
[tex]f(x)= e^{-1/x^2}[/tex]
if [itex]x\ne 0[/itex], 0 if x= 0 is infinitely differentiable and its nth-derivative at x= 0 is 0 for all n. That is, its Taylor series about 0 (MacLaurin series) is identically equal to 0. That obviously converges for all x but, just as obviously, it is not equal to f(x) for any x other than 0.
 
hmm, but if you require that x does not equal zero for the taylor series arent the function equal
 
I have no idea what that means. What do you mean by "require that x does not equal 0 for the Taylor's series"? x= 0 is the only place they are 0. If you mean simply look at the values of the two functions everywhere except at x= 0, you are dropping the only point where they are equal!
 
Oh never mind that, I had to read the past a couple more times but I understand. Thanks for the counterexample.
 

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