Can I make a banana from nothing?

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Creating a banana from its atomic constituents is not feasible with current scientific knowledge and technology. While theoretically possible, the complexity of biological systems and the lack of understanding of how to construct even simple cells from raw chemicals render this idea impractical. Existing methods of genetic manipulation rely on utilizing already existing organisms rather than synthesizing life from scratch. The discussion emphasizes that biological materials are not fundamentally different from other chemical systems, yet the practical challenges remain insurmountable at this time.

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Excuse the simplified question title. I have very little knowledge in the world of organic chemistry, and chemistry alone.

If I looked at the composition of banana (atomically), and then I got a little jar full of every element that is necessary to a banana's composition, could I make a banana?

I understand the challenges of the energy required to physically manipulate atoms.. but is this theoreticall ypossible? Could I create cells from pure atoms? What would it take to make this possible? Besides the gazillions of years required to do this... How much energy would be required to make the bonds? How could one manipulate the bonds/atoms?

Thanks!
 
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Scott Pratz said:
Excuse the simplified question title. I have very little knowledge in the world of organic chemistry, and chemistry alone.

If I looked at the composition of banana (atomically), and then I got a little jar full of every element that is necessary to a banana's composition, could I make a banana?

I understand the challenges of the energy required to physically manipulate atoms.. but is this theoreticall ypossible? Could I create cells from pure atoms? What would it take to make this possible? Besides the gazillions of years required to do this... How much energy would be required to make the bonds? How could one manipulate the bonds/atoms?

Thanks!

In a nutshell, no you can't create a banana (or anything else that complex) by manipulating a jar of its chemical constituents. That's why bananas are still grown: it's much easier to cultivate and harvest the natural article than to try to do it the mad scientist way. :rolleyes:
 
SteamKing said:
In a nutshell, no you can't create a banana
okay well thanks for your response, but instead of saying yes or no, can you clarify why?
 
Scott Pratz said:
okay well thanks for your response, but instead of saying yes or no, can you clarify why?

Well, for one thing, our current knowledge of science and technology is nowhere near being able to create anything as complex as a single cell using raw chemicals.

All of the DNA technology and genetic manipulation we currently employ takes place using existing natural cells or organisms. If an agricultural researcher wants to create a new strain of corn, for example, he breeds various existing strains of corn together to select the desirable qualities which the new strain should have. He doesn't mix up a bunch of chemicals in a lab to create a new species of corn.
 
In theory, we should be able to make a banana from scratch. There is nothing magical about biological materials that makes them different from other chemical systems.

In practice, as @SteamKing said, we don't know nearly enough about biology to even know how to build the simplest cells from scratch.

Here's a related discussion in the forums on this topic that you may find useful: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/can-we-create-life-from-scratch.692013/
 
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Ygggdrasil said:
In theory, we should be able to make a banana from scratch.
In practice, on top of the problems already described, no one has done a total assay of a banana to even know what has to be made from scratch.
 
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Ygggdrasil said:
In theory, we should be able to make a banana from scratch. There is nothing magical about biological materials

Which is probably the most important statement in the whole thread :)
 

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