Can I Take 213 and 214 with Mechanics: Advice for Balancing Physics Courses?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of taking multiple undergraduate physics courses concurrently, specifically Phys 213 (fluids and thermal) and Phys 214 (waves and quantum) alongside Phys 211 (mechanics). Participants explore the prerequisites and potential challenges of managing these courses together.

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  • One participant questions whether this is the first mechanics course for the original poster, suggesting that if it is, taking waves or fluids may not be feasible.
  • Another participant expresses concern that taking all these courses simultaneously could lead to poor performance, emphasizing the importance of foundational physics courses for future studies.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that without knowledge of the specific school's curriculum, it's difficult to provide a definitive answer, but warns that the workload may be overwhelming.
  • One participant recommends taking E&M and mechanics first, and postponing thermo/fluid and wave/optics classes, possibly suggesting a hands-on advanced physics lab as a third course instead.
  • A participant shares a personal experience of taking too many challenging courses at once, advising a more gradual approach to course load in the early years of study.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express concern about the difficulty of taking multiple advanced physics courses concurrently, indicating a lack of consensus on the feasibility of the original poster's plan. Multiple competing views remain regarding the best approach to course selection.

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Limitations include the lack of specific knowledge about the school's curriculum and the individual background of the original poster, which may affect the applicability of the advice given.

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Students considering a heavy course load in physics or those seeking advice on course sequencing in undergraduate physics programs may find this discussion relevant.

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I am planning on taking 4 physics undergraduate courses: Phys 211 (mechanics), 212 (electric/magnetism), 213 (fluids and thermal), 214 (waves and quantum)

Is it possible to take 213 and 214 concurrently with mechanics without much trouble? How much mechanics and electricity/magnetism material do you have to know to do well in 213 and 214? Thanks!
 
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Is this your first mechanics course?

If so, you won't be able to do waves or fluids. If you've already had a term of mechanics, you can go ahead.
 
I have no way to answer this without being intimately familiar with your school's curriculum.

In general, taking all of those simultaneously sounds like putting yourself in for a lot of pain and probably not doing as well in them as you could otherwise.
 
My humble opinion: you're setting yourself up for a world of hurt. The basic courses of phyisics are tremendously important if you want to be successful in further physics (or engineering) study.

Your efforts should go toward thorough learning, rather than fast learning.
 
Hard to say, not knowing the school and your previous classes, but if I had to give a recommendation I would say take the E&M and mechanics course now, and the thermo/fluid and wave/optics class later.

If you want to take a third physics class with E&M and mechanics, I would suggest something like an advanced physics lab class. Something hands-on.
 
I made the mistake of taking too many difficult math and physics courses simultaneously. You might want to try to take one math and one physics course per semester for your first two years, then, if you feel up to the challenge, begin loading them up as a junior. Besides, you do not want to be a fifth year senior and have to spend one or two semesters taking GE courses that you failed to take as an underclassman in order to graduate.
 

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