Can Invisible People See? Explained

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The discussion explores the hypothetical question of whether an invisible person could see, examining various interpretations of invisibility and its implications for vision. The scope includes conceptual reasoning and speculative scenarios regarding the nature of light and visibility.

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  • One participant suggests that if an invisible person exists, they would not be able to see because light would not be absorbed by their retina, leading to dark spots where light is blocked.
  • Another participant proposes that if invisibility is achieved by bending light around a person, then they would not see, but if light could be selectively allowed to enter their eyes, they could maintain visibility.
  • A different viewpoint introduces the idea of using infrared sensors to detect light outside the visible spectrum, suggesting that an invisible person could still perceive their environment through technology.
  • One participant argues for a dynamic method of invisibility where light is absorbed and re-emitted, allowing the invisible person to see, although this would introduce a time delay that could affect true invisibility.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of invisibility and its impact on vision, with no consensus reached on whether an invisible person could see under various proposed conditions.

Contextual Notes

Discussions involve assumptions about the mechanisms of invisibility and the properties of light, with some participants suggesting static versus dynamic methods of invisibility without resolving the implications of these methods.

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Can an invisible person see? Please explain for me. Thanks
 
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I've reinstated this thread because I don't think it is quite as non-sensical as ZapperZ thought! I interpret it as "suppose there were some people who were invisible or used some kind of mechanism to make them invisible- could they see?"

Let me answer in reverse form. To "see" something means that light from that object enters your eye and is absorbed by your retina. Someone standing behind you would, at the very least, see dark spots where that light was absorbed so you couldn't be truly invisible.
 
If the method used to cause invisibility employed the bending of light around the subect so that the light could continue as though it had never been interupted, then true invisibility could be achieved. Given this conition, the invisible individual (which just happens to be a lot of fun to say!) would not be able to see.

However, in order for vision to occur, light need only reach the eye. So, bending all the light around a person except that which enters the eye would yeild a very close approximation of invisibility, without any loss of visibility (if that majes any sense).
 
Light is visible if the wavelength falls in the visible spectrum. You could have,say, infrared sensors and UP-convert it to visible light (like those night-watchers). You'd still be invisible to the eye.
 
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Interesting approach, Galileo. I assume then that your refractory (or whatever) apparatus would selectively pass IR and not visible wavelengths to the interior of the device. Could work.
 
My first thought was also to say that the invisible person could not see since all incident light would go right through. But this transparency is a static method of being invisible. And since we are speaking of rather improbably conditions here, how about a dynamic method of being invisible instead? Light is indeed absorbed by the invisible body so the subject can see, but then it is dynamically re-emitted on the other side the same way it came in. This subject could be invisible but still able to see because it actually processes all incident light.
 
Orefa said:
My first thought was also to say that the invisible person could not see since all incident light would go right through. But this transparency is a static method of being invisible. And since we are speaking of rather improbably conditions here, how about a dynamic method of being invisible instead? Light is indeed absorbed by the invisible body so the subject can see, but then it is dynamically re-emitted on the other side the same way it came in. This subject could be invisible but still able to see because it actually processes all incident light.
There would have to be a time delay between absorption and re-emission. In principle, this delay could be detected and so, arguably, the subject would not be truly invisible.
 

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