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Why is a smooth clean piece of glass transparent but not invisible?
The discussion centers around the question of why clear glass is transparent but not completely invisible, exploring the concepts of transparency, invisibility, and the optical properties of materials. Participants delve into the differences between transparent and invisible objects, the role of scattering, refraction, and other optical effects.
Participants express multiple competing views regarding the definitions of transparency and invisibility, the role of scattering and refraction, and the conditions under which these phenomena occur. The discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached.
Some limitations include the dependence on definitions of transparency and invisibility, as well as the conditions under which refraction and scattering occur. The nuances of how these properties interact with light are not fully resolved.
DaleSpam said:What is the difference between transparent and invisible?
There is always some scattering, particularly from the edges. Indeed, if there is no scattering, absorption or reflection, the object will indeed be invisible. That is, however, the ideal case.motleycat said:Transparent objects allow light to pass through neither absorbing nor reflecting nor scattering it. Invisible objects are not perceivable by vision.
Chandra Prayaga said:There is always some scattering, particularly from the edges. Indeed, if there is no scattering, absorption or reflection, the object will indeed be invisible. That is, however, the ideal case.
So what other optical properties or effects might a transparent object have that would be percievable by vision? Can you think of any other quantity that is often used to characterize transparent media?motleycat said:Transparent objects allow light to pass through neither absorbing nor reflecting nor scattering it. Invisible objects are not perceivable by vision.
DaleSpam said:So what other optical properties or effects might a transparent object have that would be percievable by vision? Can you think of any other quantity that is often used to characterize transparent media?
But the medium of transmission is a smooth piece of glass.DaleSpam said:Refraction. It is the thing that makes lenses work and makes straight sticks look bent when they go from water to air.
But refraction occurs only when the light passes the boundary between media such as air and glass at an angle. It doesn't happen when the light hits the boundary in a direction perpendicular to the medium.Chandra Prayaga said:As DaleSpam points out, refraction makes even transparent objects "visible" because you can see the "bending" of light as it passes through the object.
I wasn't sure at first because English is not my first language but I brushed up on my knowledge of it. However, as I replied to Chandra Prayaga refraction occurs only when the light passes the boundary between media such as air and glass at an angle. It doesn't happen when the light hits the boundary in a direction perpendicular to the medium as far as I know.DaleSpam said:Yes. Do you know what refraction is? You may want to read about it.