Can Leptons and Quarks Lead to a Theory of Everything?

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The discussion revolves around the feasibility of a "Theory of Everything" (ToE) that combines the standard model of particle physics with a quantum theory of gravity. While some physicists, like Max Tegmark, believe a simple ToE is attainable, many in condensed matter physics argue that such a theory may not exist or be practically applicable, emphasizing the complexity of emergent phenomena. The incompleteness theorem is cited as a significant barrier, suggesting that while we can have axioms for a ToE, it may remain inherently incomplete. Participants express skepticism about the ability of a single theory to encompass all aspects of the universe, highlighting the need for a broader understanding that includes both fundamental components and their interactions. Ultimately, the conversation reflects a divide in the physics community regarding the potential and limitations of unifying theories.
  • #61
apeiron said:
Replying to Dawg - wasn't it Hawking who spoke of knowing the mind of god, Einstein asserting that god doesn't play dice?
Neither one has belief in a personal gawd, its a metaphor.
And if you read what I wrote, I was saying that physics too often stoops to faith-based positions, even as it adopts a holier-than-thou empiricist rhetoric.

I've met physics, he never stoops.

Empiricism works. When it stops working, we'll stop using it.
Faith has no predictive value. Might as well roll the dice.
 
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  • #62
Dmitry67 said:
There may be some testable things:
http://www.scimednet.org/library/articlesN75+/N76Parnia_nde.htm

Pseudoscience.
 

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