Can magnetism exist outside of any non-inertial motion, such as spin?

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between non-inertial motion, magnetism, and spin. It is argued that while non-inertial motion may be necessary for magnetism to exist, it is not dependent on the observer. The concept of intrinsic spin magnetic moments is also introduced, which are not subject to variations from the observer's perspective. The conversation concludes by suggesting that magnetism may have a deeper dependence on non-inertial motion, despite being considered a relative phenomenon.
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If it were true that non-inertial motion, such as spin, is required for magnetism to exist, then one could say that a lack of non-inertial motion implies lack of magnetism. However, whether a separate body is traveling inertially or non-inertially in relation to spacetime is not something dependent on the observer, and therefore, the notion that magnetism is fully dependent on the existence of non-inertial motion conflicts with the idea that electric fields and magnetism are completely interchangeable according to the frame of reference.

Additionally, I understand that quantum particles possesses intrinsic spin magnetic moments, which are not understood as classical spins. The observed magnetic moment that results from these "intrinsic" spins are not subject to variations resulting from relative motions of the observer. In other words, they appear to be defined on the basis of some "intrinsic" non-inertial motion, despite the fact that classical theory is no longer accepted as an explanation for this spin.

Given the invariance with respect to an observer as to whether a distant object is following a spacetime geodesic or not, as well as the invariance with respect to an observer as to whether an object is spinning or not (i.e. a rotating frame), it would seem that magnetism, which is usually regarded as a relative phenomenon, may have an underlying full dependence on there being non-inertial motion.
 
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Spin is not a motion at all. Yes, magnetism can exist without non-inertial motion, it can even exist without any motion.
 

1. Can magnetism exist without any motion?

Yes, magnetism can exist without any motion. In stationary objects, such as permanent magnets, the magnetic field is created by the alignment of electrons within the material. This alignment creates a magnetic dipole, which is the source of the magnetic field.

2. How does spin affect magnetism?

Spin is a fundamental property of particles, and it can affect magnetism in two ways. First, the spin of electrons within a material contributes to the overall magnetic field of the material. Second, the spin of individual particles can interact with magnetic fields, leading to phenomena such as spin-spin coupling and spin-orbit coupling.

3. Is there a difference between magnetism in non-inertial and inertial frames?

Yes, there is a difference between magnetism in non-inertial and inertial frames. In non-inertial frames, such as rotating frames, there can be additional forces acting on charged particles, which can affect their motion and lead to different magnetic field configurations compared to inertial frames.

4. Can magnetism exist without any charged particles present?

No, magnetism is a phenomenon that is caused by the motion of charged particles. In the absence of charged particles, there can be no magnetic field. This is because the magnetic field is created by the motion of charged particles, such as electrons, which have an electric charge.

5. Can magnetism exist in a vacuum?

Yes, magnetism can exist in a vacuum. In fact, the most common example of magnetism is the Earth's magnetic field, which permeates through the vacuum of space. Similarly, magnetic fields can also exist in the space between the poles of a magnet, which is essentially a vacuum. This is because the source of magnetism, the motion of charged particles, can occur in a vacuum.

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