Can Millikan's Oil Drop Experiment Accurately Measure the Elementary Charge?

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The discussion revolves around Millikan's Oil Drop Experiment and the challenges faced in accurately measuring the elementary charge using a lab simulation. Participants are examining the calculations and assumptions related to the charge of an oil drop.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the charge of an oil drop but questions why their results do not align with expected multiples of the elementary charge. Some participants raise concerns about the size of the oil drops and the accuracy of the simulation used. Others suggest that the number of electrons on the drops may need to be reduced for more accurate measurements.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the implications of using a simulation for this experiment and the potential inaccuracies that arise from it. There is a recognition of the need for proper measurement techniques and the limitations of the simulation in producing realistic charge values.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of incorrect unit usage for the radius of the oil drops and the scale of the simulation, which may affect the results. The discussion also reflects on historical perspectives of the experiment and the challenges faced by previous students in obtaining accurate measurements.

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Homework Statement


Hi, I had to calculate the charge of an oil drop using a lab simulation


Homework Equations


q = mgd/v


The Attempt at a Solution


This is the result i came up with:
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The charges are not multiple of 1.6x10^-19 C. How can i fix this?

Thanks
 
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You realze I hope that even for your smallest oil drop you had about 2.9e-12/1.6e-19 = 18,125,000 electrons on that oil drop! And you expect to resolve to within 1 electron?

You need either a much smaller drop or, much more plausibly, you need to reduce the number of electrons on each drop. Millikan himself managed to put no more than about a dozen electrons on his drops.
 
You certainly use wrong units for the radius. Can you imagine a half-meter size drop of oil? How did you measure the size of the oil drops?

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So it was simulation... Nice. Have you noticed that one scale is 0.5 mm? So the radii were wrong. Anyway, you can not get the electric charge with that simulation. It results too big charges, order of 10-12 C.

We did that experiment in real life when I was a student (about 50 years ago). We got several tens on electrons on a single drop, and then subtracted the charge values in hope that the smallest difference would be the elementary charge, but it never came out. So we did a very modern thing: We simulated the measurement data :wink: and then evaluated them. And we also wondered if Millikan really succeeded to obtain the elementary charge from his experiment.

ehild
 

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