Can nature do this in the night sky?

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The discussion revolves around a video recorded in Oxnard, CA, purportedly showing unidentified lights in the night sky. Participants explore the nature of these lights, considering various explanations and the implications of the video quality on the interpretation of the phenomenon.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the video, noting the presence of yellow lights from a nearby house and white lights in the sky, suggesting they may be a UFO, while also expressing uncertainty about their own perception due to medical reasons.
  • Another participant questions the visibility of the lights in relation to their proximity to LAX, implying that sound from aircraft should be audible if the lights were from nearby air traffic.
  • Some participants propose various aircraft as possible explanations, including helicopters and small planes, while noting that engine noise may not be detectable under certain conditions.
  • A participant argues that without better video quality, the lights must remain unidentified, emphasizing that the lack of reliable information prevents any definitive conclusions from being drawn.
  • Concerns are raised about the nature of speculation regarding UFOs, suggesting that the analysis may lead to an endless list of possible interpretations without resolution.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of the lights and the validity of various explanations, with no consensus reached regarding their origin or whether they can be classified as a UFO.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations related to the quality of the video and the assumptions made about the visibility and sound of potential aircraft in the area.

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Can these swirling lights be nature?
Ok so this video was recorded in Oxnard, CA on 1/15/2024@8:39pm (I actually know the precise location, if you need it for accurate interpretation of the video, ask for it and I will PM you the address).
It was recorded on an iPad 7. The rectangular yellow lights are windows of a nearby house and the white lights swirling in the upper right hand of the screen are in the night sky on the bottom of I believe is a UFO though I feel this may be an unwelcome topic on these forums, but I also have to account for possibly hallucinating due to medical reasons, perhaps what I think I saw is just normal astronomy in the backyard, hopefully the camera doesn't lie.

When viewing the video online through the YouTube app you may switch to higher quality video 720p by the ... button>quality. And yes, I did film this myself and post it to YouTube months ago.

[Link redacted by the Mentors due to rules violation]

I will be without internet for a few days but I will check back soon.
 
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You mean: What can be seen in the sky at night less than 50 miles from LAX?
 
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fresh_42 said:
You mean: What can be seen in the sky at night less than 50 miles from LAX?
Yes LAX is about an hour's drive from there. There's sound in the video and the source of those lights was fairly low altitude, IDK wouldn't we be able to hear some kind of engine noise if the proximity to the airport was the explanation. Also there is a small airport a few miles away in Oxnard, CA too, but iirc it's only supports smaller aircraft.
 
I thought of a helicopter, a Cessna, or a Learjet. You can only hear engines when the wind is favorable.
 
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If there was better video, the issue could be resolved, but there is not, so it must remain unidentified. We do not know it is a flying object. It may, or may not, be a UFO, or a hoax.

The focus of analysis, on trying to explain the source, is a misapplication of research effort. As effort is expended, the list of possible sources imagined, must increase, independent of the information available. It cannot decrease, because, in the absence of reliable information, nothing can be disproved. The possible interpretations are limited only by the imagination of the viewers. At no point can a certain conclusion be made.

The resources expended on the analysis of data, are inversely proportional to the quality of the data.

"He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you." - Friedrich Nietzsche - Beyond Good and Evil.
 
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And with the good reply by @Baluncore this thread is closed. UFO Speculation is against the PF rules:

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UFO speculation
 
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