Can nuclear weapons explosion produce neutrino pluse ?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether nuclear weapons explosions can produce neutrino pulses, exploring the mechanisms of neutrino production in nuclear fission and fusion processes, and comparing these to phenomena such as core-collapse supernovae.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that nuclear explosions can produce neutrinos, but others clarify that neutrinos are not generated during the fission process itself, but rather from the beta decays of fission products occurring later.
  • One participant notes that while neutrinos are generally harmless, the energy released through conventional pathways in a nuclear explosion is significantly more damaging.
  • Another participant questions whether the extreme temperatures during a nuclear explosion could produce thermal neutrino-antineutrino pairs, drawing a comparison to core-collapse supernovae, which are known to produce large quantities of neutrinos.
  • Several participants discuss the short duration of nuclear explosions, emphasizing that the fission and fusion reactions occur in microseconds, which may limit neutrino production compared to the prolonged processes in supernovae.
  • There is a mention of the specific reactions involved in hydrogen bomb explosions and the types of particles produced, with some participants suggesting that neutrinos may be absent in these reactions.
  • One participant highlights the significant difference in energy scales between thermonuclear explosions and supernovae, noting that the latter produces neutrinos over a longer time frame.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the production of neutrinos in nuclear explosions, with no consensus reached on whether significant neutrino pulses are generated. The discussion includes competing models and interpretations of the processes involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions regarding the timing of reactions and the conditions necessary for neutrino production, indicating that the discussion is limited by the complexity of the processes involved and the specific contexts of nuclear explosions versus astrophysical events.

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Can nuclear weapons explosion produce "neutrino pluse"?

Can nuclear weapons explosion produce "neutrino pluse"?
 
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Yes, but neutrinos are completely harmless.
 


clem said:
Yes, but neutrinos are completely harmless.

Well, they are not _completely_ harmless, but energy released through conventional pathways is much more damaging than neutrinos.

With nukes, you don't even have to worry (much) about direct gamma radiation. Any person close enough to the epicenter to suffer radiation sickness, will most likely get killed by the combination of the shockwave and infrared radiation.
 


To my knowledge, neutrinos are not generated during the fission process - just fission products (two nuclei), neutrons and gamma rays, and photons from X-rays to infrared as ionized atoms regain electrons (recombination). The neutrinos come afterward from the beta decays of the fission products - and that would be seconds, minutes, hours or days later (depending on the radionuclide).

In a nuclear weapon, the fission reaction is over in a matter of microseconds, as it is prompt supercritical until the fissile material is dispersed (it vaporizes).

Besides - neutrinos have a very low cross-section for interaction with matter.
 


don’t neutrinos pass through our body every second from the sun .
 


Thank you "Astronuc"^_^

"Hydrogen Bomb" explosion can produce "neutrino pluse" ?
 


As we know,during ''core-collapse supernova"explosion, the hot temprature can produce numerous neutrinos and antineutrinos .During SN1987a, here we on Earth detected them.

During the nuclear explosion, the temprature is very very hot in the explosion center,if the temprature is hot enough to produce "neutrino-antineutrino" pairs(thermal neutrino)?
 
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magnetar said:
Thank you "Astronuc"^_^

"Hydrogen Bomb" explosion can produce "neutrino pluse" ?
A hydrogen bomb explosion is also of a short duration - again in microseconds. The fusion (mostly d+t, but probably some d+d, assuming a D+T mixture) is initiated by the gamma/X-ray burst from a fission (trigger) explosion.

The fusion reaction is short term, and I believe neutrinos are absent. d+t -> alpha + n, and d+d -> p + t or n + He3.


A "core-collapse supernova" explosion takes place over days, so it is orders of magnitude greater than any thermonuclear explosion humans can achieve.
 


Astronuc said:
A "core-collapse supernova" explosion takes place over days, so it is orders of magnitude greater than any thermonuclear explosion humans can achieve.

The neutrino production phase takes around 90 seconds. Neutrinos are produced through the process p + e^- \rightarrow n + \nu_e as the core becomes a neutron star. (That's where the neutrons come from to make a neutron star). This process is negligible in nuclear explosions.

You're absolutely right that the energies in SN are enormous. They are measured in units of 1051 ergs.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
The neutrino production phase takes around 90 seconds. Neutrinos are produced through the process p + e^- \rightarrow n + \nu_e as the core becomes a neutron star. (That's where the neutrons come from to make a neutron star). This process is negligible in nuclear explosions.

You're absolutely right that the energies in SN are enormous. They are measured in units of 1051 ergs.
Thanks for the comment V. In terms of time, I was thinking that the core collapse takes places over days, as opposed to the nuclear reaction (p + e-) which is on the order of seconds. And SNs are enormous.

Even the entire Earth is neglible compared to our Sun.
 

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