Can Plastic Gears Replace Metal in Industrial Machinery?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility of replacing metal gears with plastic materials in industrial machinery. Participants explore the implications of such a replacement, considering factors like load, speed, and material properties, while discussing specific applications and manufacturing techniques.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the feasibility of using plastic gears, suggesting that the application specifics are crucial to determine if plastic can replace metal.
  • Another participant emphasizes the need to evaluate loads on the gears under nominal and maximum conditions before making a decision.
  • Some participants note that plastic gears are used in industry for low loads, highlighting their advantages such as running without lubrication and being less noisy than steel gears.
  • Concerns are raised about the dimensional stability of plastic gears due to humidity absorption and thermal expansion compared to metal gears.
  • Participants discuss manufacturing methods, indicating that plastic gears can be milled similarly to metal gears and may also be produced through injection molding for mass production.
  • There is mention of specific plastic types, such as Nylon-6 and Nylon-66, but no consensus on their suitability or performance under specific conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the use of plastic gears, with some agreeing on their applicability for low-load situations while others remain uncertain about their performance under specific conditions. The discussion does not reach a consensus on the overall feasibility of replacing metal with plastic gears.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the need for precise calculations regarding loads and stresses, which remain unresolved. The discussion also highlights the dependence on specific application requirements and material properties, which are not fully defined.

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Hello,
I wonder whether I can replace the Metal gears and other parts with Plastic material? If so, what kind of plastic material should I use? There is no heat and the force is also not that great but the speed is.
This is not for toy but industrial machinery, with gear diameter of about 10 inches.
Thank you.
 
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To answer this question properly, you need to do two things (at least):
1) Evaluate the loads on the gears (actual number) at nominal condition and at max condition;
2) Design a plastic gear, and compute the stresses and wear resistance potential.
When both of these are done, you should have an answer to your question.
 
Maybe, what specifically is the application? The force and speed being great or not is really relative.
 
montoyas7940 said:
Maybe, what specifically is the application? The force and speed being great or not is really relative.

Here is what I'm trying to prototype using plastic gears and other components.

 
OldEngr63 said:
To answer this question properly, you need to do two things (at least):
1) Evaluate the loads on the gears (actual number) at nominal condition and at max condition;
2) Design a plastic gear, and compute the stresses and wear resistance potential.
When both of these are done, you should have an answer to your question.



1] I guess the load is just to rotate the gear, which initially have mass resistance of 4-5 lb, I guess. Not more than that. I don't see any other load coming in except the tension of the rope/thread from the bobbin.
2] Little difficult for me. Will have to ask an engineer. But considering above machine. I think not much load is there.

But had anyone used the Plastic gear in industry? I'd like to know the kind of plastics I can use. Better/Best etc? Their names? Which would be cheaper than Steel/Iron/Aluminium?
 
jh0 said:
Of course plastic gears are used in industry. They are good for low loads, can run without lubrication, have dampening properties and are less noisy than steel gears.
This was at the first page when I googled plastic gears:

http://www.gearsolutions.com/article/detail/5621/engineering-principles-for-plastic-gears

Thank you, that was good one.
Can I use the mold to make plastic gear or is there any other technique to create a gear? Like metal gears are made on machine?
 
Plastic gears can be milled in the same manner as metal ones. Feed rates are greater and production is faster and cheaper.
I do not see why they could not also be made by injection moulding for mass production, if the plastic is suitable and very high precision is not needed for the particular application.
I don't know much about plastics, but I believe that many plastics absorb humidity and the dimensions can change in the process, also thermal expansion is greater than steel, so for very precise gears plastic (even machine milled) could be a problem.
 
jh0 said:
Plastic gears can be milled in the same manner as metal ones. Feed rates are greater and production is faster and cheaper.
I do not see why they could not also be made by injection moulding for mass production, if the plastic is suitable and very high precision is not needed for the particular application.
I don't know much about plastics, but I believe that many plastics absorb humidity and the dimensions can change in the process, also thermal expansion is greater than steel, so for very precise gears plastic (even machine milled) could be a problem.

Well for the machine shown in video, these gears are in back side of the machine. One gear is driven by motor and that in turn rotates all gears in clock-anti clockwise fashion alternately, which touch each other. I'll have to calculate the resulting load of all these gears on the driving one and then decide whether plastic or steel. As of now don't know how much load the plastic gears can with stand if they are made up of Nylon - 6 or 66 who has 8 inch diameter and possible largest gear pitch.
 

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