Can someone explain fractional calculus?

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The discussion revolves around the concept of fractional calculus, which generalizes integration and differentiation to non-integer orders. Participants explore its theoretical implications, practical applications, and their own understanding of the topic.

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  • Some participants express curiosity about the meaning and implications of taking fractional derivatives, questioning how they relate to traditional derivatives that describe changes over time.
  • Others suggest that fractional calculus may be more of a mathematical curiosity rather than having immediate practical applications, although they acknowledge some uses in fields like acoustics, quantum mechanics, fluid flow, and diffusion.
  • A participant mentions that a professor at their school focuses on fractional calculus in her research, particularly in the context of fractional differential equations, indicating a more advanced understanding of the topic.
  • One participant notes that the Wikipedia article provides a simple example involving the monomial x^k and discusses the transition from factorials to the gamma function in defining fractional derivatives.

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Participants generally express a lack of consensus on the practical applications of fractional calculus, with some viewing it as primarily theoretical while others mention specific fields where it is applied. There is also a shared uncertainty regarding the complexity of the topic and its implications.

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Some participants indicate limitations in their understanding of fractional calculus, suggesting that the topic may require more advanced mathematical knowledge than they currently possess.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals interested in advanced mathematics, particularly those exploring concepts in calculus, differential equations, and their applications in various scientific fields.

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So, apparently, it's possible to generalize integration and derivation into non-integer orders. For instance, it's apparently possible to take the 0.5th derivative of a function.

What I'm wondering is what would be represented by such an equation? If a derivative represents how a function changes over time, like velocity and acceleration, what on Earth would you do with the fractional derivative?

Here's the Wikipedia page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractional_calculus) just to make clear I'm not confusing it with partial derivatives, which by this point I'm well acquainted with :P
 
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A very interesting article, I had never heard of fractional calculus before. I look at this as mathematicians investigating an area for their own curiosity not that it applied to anything practical. The graphics show how varying the fractional power gets you curves between the function and its derivative which is cool in and of itself. They even describe using complex powers also pretty cool.

At the very end of the article, the author outlines the uses in acoustics, quantum mechanics, fluid flow and diffusion all valid applications. Now I'm going to have ask around about it at work. Thanks.
 
jedishrfu said:
A very interesting article, I had never heard of fractional calculus before. I look at this as mathematicians investigating an area for their own curiosity not that it applied to anything practical. The graphics show how varying the fractional power gets you curves between the function and its derivative which is cool in and of itself. They even describe using complex powers also pretty cool.

At the very end of the article, the author outlines the uses in acoustics, quantum mechanics, fluid flow and diffusion all valid applications. Now I'm going to have ask around about it at work. Thanks.

You're quite welcome. After you've asked your coworkers could you please let me know what they had to say (since from the sound of it you work around a lot of math people)? I tried reading the article but it seems to be well above my understanding.
 
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jack476 said:
You're quite welcome. After you've asked your coworkers could you please let me know what they had to say (since from the sound of it you work around a lot of math people)? I tried reading the article but it seems to be well above my understanding.

Mine too.
 
One of the professors at my school has this as a main part of her research (looking at her publications, it appears frequently in the form of fractional differential equations). I've never done much reading into it, and it's well beyond my knowledge as well, but the example in the Wiki article of the monomial x^k is at least quite simple to follow. It looks like they noted the general pattern for the nth derivative (natural n) of x^k, which involves factorials, and then changed the domain of this pattern to the reals by replacing factorials with the gamma function, and shows that it satisfies the desired properties of the idea of an rth derivative.
 

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