Can someone explain this quantum physics concepts to me?

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The discussion revolves around the concepts of matter and light in quantum physics, including their interconversion, the nature of quantum entanglement, and the philosophical implications of existence as explained by quantum physics. Participants explore definitions and interpretations of these concepts, raising questions about the fundamental nature of reality.

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  • Some participants express confusion about how matter can transform into light and vice versa, questioning the mechanisms behind these processes.
  • One participant asserts that light is a type of matter, while others challenge this by suggesting that matter is fundamentally different due to its mass.
  • There is a discussion about quantum entanglement, with one participant noting that it involves particles affecting each other instantaneously, regardless of distance.
  • Several participants debate the implications of Einstein's equation E=mc², with differing interpretations about the relationship between energy and matter.
  • One participant suggests that the term "world" in quantum physics may refer to the many-worlds interpretation, while others seek clarification on its meaning.
  • There are claims that physics is fundamentally mathematical, while others argue that not all physical concepts can be expressed mathematically.
  • A participant describes quantum pairing as a process where two particles vibrate in sync, leading to instantaneous state changes, but acknowledges that a full explanation is lacking.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of light and matter, with multiple competing views presented. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the definitions and implications of these concepts.

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Some participants express that the questions posed are vague or poorly formed, which may limit the clarity of responses. There are also references to specific interpretations and theories that may not be universally accepted.

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This discussion may be of interest to those exploring foundational concepts in quantum physics, particularly regarding the nature of matter and light, as well as philosophical implications of quantum mechanics.

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I don't understand how matter can be transformed to light and light can be transformed into matter?

Also, how exactly does this happen when something happens to one particle and something equivalent happens to another particle of the same type on the other end of the Earth instantaneously?

I was trying to look up "Quantum Physics" definition of 'world' but I was unable to find anything. Can someone give me a brief explanation of the definition of 'world' in quantum physics?


How do quantum physicist explain our existence?
 
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light is one type of matter
 
anyone?
 
matthayzon89 said:
anyone?

light is a type of matter, photons
 
okay, I appreciate your comment but those 6 words are near worthless... I was hoping to get something more informative, if someone had the time...

thanks though
 
Here and elsewhere your questions are so far from the truth as to make them impossible to answer. How would one answer "what's the name for the longest side of a circle?" You are asking for quantum mechanics to support some sort of mystical mumbo-jumbo. It doesn't.
 
matthayzon89 said:
okay, I appreciate your comment but those 6 words are near worthless... I was hoping to get something more informative, if someone had the time...

thanks though

What I am saying, just as Vanadium is pointing out, is that the question is wrong already from the beginning so there is nothing to be answered.
 
I'm not sure why you guys think the OP's questions are so outrageous. "Light is one type of matter" you say? I was under the impression that the term "matter" is generally used to refer to particles with mass (or nonzero rest mass if you prefer). It's pretty dismissive to act as if light and matter are so obviously the same thing that no sensible person should wonder how they interconvert. Einstein proved that matter and energy can be converted into one another and share many basic properties (gravitational interaction, etc...), but to say that they're the same thing seems to be missing almost the whole point.

In my opinion, the first question is actually a very good one, although I'm not sure it belongs in the quantum physics section, and I don't actually have a satisfactory answer.

The second question does seem a bit more confused, but it's pretty clear you're talking about entanglement, which is a very specific quantum phenomenon that is distinct from energy/mass equivalency. Here is the wikipedia article on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_entanglement

As for the use of the term "worlds" in physics, I guess it depends on context. Maybe you mean Everett's "many-worlds" interpretation of quantum mechanics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many_worlds). If so, then "world" is actually shorthand for "the entire universe."

I certainly can't claim to know how every quantum physicist would explain existence. Many wouldn't even try to, and would be happy to leave that one to philosophy and metaphysics.

Your questions don't seem nonsensical to me, but they are somewhat vague and badly formed. I suggest you look at those wikipedia articles and come back with any further questions you have. Try to ask something a little more specific, and you'll probably get less grief.

Hope that helps.
 
ansgar said:
light is one type of matter

Shouldn't it be the other way around: matter is a type of light? Matter is made of "tangled up" waves, tangled up light essentially (see string theory). Matter is light that cannot explode--it is energy that is "stored". When there is a nucluar explosion (such as in the Sun), that energy is unleashed.

Note that the equation E=mc^2 doesn't say that where there is energy, there is matter. It's the other way around: it says that where there is matter, there is energy.

Did I answer the matthayzon89's question?

Jean
 
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Jean Paul said:
Note that the equation E=mc^2 doesn't say that where there is energy, there is matter. It's the other way around: it says that where there is matter, there is energy.
Jean

Equal signs are commutative, there is no precedence of energy over matter or vice-versa ... they are both different forms of the same thing.
 
  • #11
"In my opinion, the first question is actually a very good one"

cdbfarley is right, surely. This chap is asking a reasonable question with the first one. Is it just language, is potential energy really equivalent to temperature, for example?

Of course they are, one can be changed into the other. But what is changing into what? A position (of mass) within a gravitational field is changing into sound and heat and deformation of mass. Most of it - in normal life - disappears as a Newtonian impulse on a body so large it may as well be infinite in mass.

This hides the real question. Why do we see mass as containing so much more energy than weightless particles, why do weightless particles always travel at the same speed, and what does the speed of light have to do with the energy contained in 'stationary' matter?

Does anyone understand this?
 
  • #12
SpectraCat said:
Equal signs are commutative, there is no precedence of energy over matter or vice-versa ... they are both different forms of the same thing.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Thanks for all the replies guys! I'll be sure to read from the links.
 
  • #13
SpectraCat said:
Equal signs are commutative, there is no precedence of energy over matter or vice-versa ... they are both different forms of the same thing.

What you say is mathematically correct. But physics is not mathematics. What I meant is that the equation *doesn't* say that if there is energy, there is matter. For instance light is not matter (although, given favorable circumstances, light can be transformed into matter). However where there is matter, there is always energy because matter is a form of energy.

Jean
 
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Jean Paul said:
What you say is mathematically correct. But physics is not mathematics. What I meant is that the equation *doesn't* say that if there is energy, there is matter. For instance light is not matter (although, given favorable circumstances, light can be transformed into matter). However where there is matter, there is always energy because matter is a form of energy.

Jean


what is matter then? define matter

light = photons, clearly a building block for matter...
 
  • #16
Dmitry67 said:
Physics IS mathematics (Mathematical Universe Hypotesis by Max Tegmark)

Do you know what Eta prime meson consists of?
Check here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mesons
I support your point with all my authority.
 
  • #17
matthayzon89 said:
Also, how exactly does this happen when something happens to one particle and something equivalent happens to another particle of the same type on the other end of the Earth instantaneously?

This is known as Quantum Pairing. In a nutshell two particles are made to vibrate in sync with each other using lasers. It takes about 40 million attempts to get 1 success. Once they are in sync information travels between them instantaneously. So basically when you alter ones state you instantly alter the others state no matter the distance between them.

So far I don't think there is an explanation behind it, yet. It just is.

That's the layman's example anyhow.
 
  • #18
haael said:
I support your point with all my authority.

Hmm I would only say that a big part of physics is math, there are clearly elements in physics which are not math...
 
  • #19
ansgar said:
Hmm I would only say that a big part of physics is math, there are clearly elements in physics which are not math...

For example? (pure physical axioms, which can not be expressed in math terms are always interesting)
 
  • #20
Simple answer.

Matter is particles that can't share space with each other. They maintain their exact force resistance properties uniquely.

Bosons can share space and their properties can be combined.
 
  • #21
LostConjugate said:
Simple answer.

Matter is particles that can't share space with each other. They maintain their exact force resistance properties uniquely.

Bosons can share space and their properties can be combined.

This is a result of the math, not an axiom
 
  • #22
Dmitry67 said:
This is a result of the math, not an axiom

an axiom is any mathematical statement that serves as a starting point from which other statements are logically derived
 
  • #23
LostConjugate said:
an axiom is any mathematical statement that serves as a starting point from which other statements are logically derived

Yes, so what?
Apparent properties on fermions and bosons are defined by the math which describe them.
 
  • #24
Math is the best language we have for describing physics. We know that fermions and bosons have different properties. I guess what the first question in the OP is asking is how can two bosons with high energy become fermions unless fermions are made of bosons in which case fermions would not be considered a independent entity.
 
  • #25
of course it is probably a matter of semantics,
but looks like OP believed that matter = fermions
why? what's about the gluons? do they play any role? yes or no?
if answer is yes, then photons, responsible for the EM interaction, form mateer as well.
 
  • #26
Dmitry67 said:
of course it is probably a matter of semantics,
but looks like OP believed that matter = fermions
why? what's about the gluons? do they play any role? yes or no?
if answer is yes, then photons, responsible for the EM interaction, form mateer as well.

fermions are usually associated with matter

gluons are bosons which are associated with force carriers
 
  • #27
"fermions are usually associated with matter" - I know
My question, is it correct?
Can we say that a house is made of wood, and nails are not part of the house because they are just holding it together?
 
  • #28
There are plenty of examples of bosons which we normally call matter. Half of the atoms on an atomic chart are bosons. Half of the posters here are bosons.
 
  • #29
Phrak said:
There are plenty of examples of bosons which we normally call matter. Half of the atoms on an atomic chart are bosons. Half of the posters here are bosons.

Pardon, but that's "Boatswain" in my case. I have the whistle to prove it! Nah... I'm not... :cries:
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Anyway, if Fermions ALWAYS = Matter, why bother with such distinctions as "Fermionic matter" verusus the general "Baryonic Matter"? I think it's pretty cut and dry, especially, as you say half of what forms our atomic structure is the interaction of bosons... well... that's a constituent of matter. Anything else seems to be a semantic dodge, but maybe not "wrong".
 
  • #30
also, what's about pi-mesons?
They have rest mass, they consist of quarks, and at the same time they are 'force carriers'.
 

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