Can someone help me understand what this problem is asking?

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The problem involves proving that a graph with n nodes and more than \begin{pmatrix}n-1 \\ 2\end{pmatrix} edges is always connected. Participants are discussing the interpretation of the problem statement and the mathematical notation involved.

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  • Some participants clarify the distinction between the binomial coefficient \begin{pmatrix}n-1 \\ 2\end{pmatrix} and the expression (n-1)/2, questioning the original poster's understanding of the problem's requirements.
  • Others express confusion about the meaning of the binomial coefficient and seek further explanation.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing clarifications about the mathematical notation and its implications for the problem. There is an acknowledgment of the need to prove the statement regarding graph connectivity.

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Participants note that the original poster may have misinterpreted the problem's requirements, leading to confusion about the number of edges in relation to the binomial coefficient.

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Homework Statement


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7.2.11 Prove that a graph with n nodes and more than \begin{pmatrix}n-1 \\ 2\end{pmatrix} edges is always connected.


I first assumed it was saying the graph must have more than (n-1)/2 edges, but I don't think this can be right as I've shown below:


If: 1 node has degree 0
Then: n-1 nodes must have more than (n-1)/2 total edges

this IS possible however as n-1 nodes can have a max of (n-1)(n-2)/2 edges

Since I'm trying to prove that this isn't possible, my only solution is that I'm reading the number of edges wrong.

Thoughts?
 
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TrolliOlli said:
I first assumed it was saying the graph must have more than (n-1)/2 edges
The problem is asking about \begin{pmatrix}n-1\\2\end{pmatrix}, not \frac{n-1}2, and it doesn't say that a graph must have more than that many edges. What it says is that if a graph of n nodes does have more than \begin{pmatrix}n-1\\2\end{pmatrix} then that graph must necessarily be a connected graph.

Your job is to prove this statement.
 
D H said:
The problem is asking about \begin{pmatrix}n-1\\2\end{pmatrix}, not \frac{n-1}2, and it doesn't say that a graph must have more than that many edges. What it says is that if a graph of n nodes does have more than \begin{pmatrix}n-1\\2\end{pmatrix} then that graph must necessarily be a connected graph.

Your job is to prove this statement.

Thank you very much for the clarification. I'm guessing however that I must have missed something as I've never seen something of the form \begin{pmatrix}n-1\\2\end{pmatrix} before.

What exactly does this mean?
 
It's the binomial coefficient.
\binom n k =\frac{n!}{(n-k)!\,k!}
Substituting nn-1, k → 2, and expanding yields
\binom {n-1} 2 =\frac{(n-1)!}{(n-3)!\,2!} = \frac{(n-1)(n-2)}2
 
D H said:
It's the binomial coefficient.
\binom n k =\frac{n!}{(n-k)!\,k!}
Substituting nn-1, k → 2, and expanding yields
\binom {n-1} 2 =\frac{(n-1)!}{(n-3)!\,2!} = \frac{(n-1)(n-2)}2

Thank you so much! That's exactly what I needed.
 

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