Can Sound Be Captured Like a Photograph?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of capturing sound in a visual format, akin to taking a photograph. Participants explore various methods and technologies that could allow for the mapping of sound waves, similar to ultrasound imaging but with a broader application. The conversation touches on theoretical and experimental approaches to visualizing sound, including the use of arrays of microphones and interferometry.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose using an array of microphones to synchronously record audio and synthesize images through techniques like interferometry, noting that sound attenuation varies with frequency.
  • One participant compares the proposed sound imaging to seismic methods used in oil exploration, highlighting the complexity of sound wave propagation.
  • Another participant emphasizes that ultrasound imaging reflects objects rather than sound itself, suggesting that clarity on the desired outcome is necessary.
  • There are mentions of existing technologies like acoustic direction finding and the potential for acoustic imaging to visualize sound sources alongside visual images.
  • Some participants discuss the limitations of capturing sound at a single moment, suggesting that a time-accumulated approach may be necessary for low-frequency sounds.
  • Alternative methods involving lasers, such as acousto-optic measurements and photon correlation spectroscopy, are introduced as potential ways to visualize sound pressure waves.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility and methods of capturing sound visually. While some agree on the potential of microphone arrays and interferometry, others challenge the notion of ultrasound as a method for imaging sound itself. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views and approaches presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the effectiveness of sound imaging may depend on various factors, including frequency, environmental conditions, and the specific technologies employed. There is also acknowledgment of the need for clarity in defining what is meant by "capturing sound."

Logs
Is there any sensor or method that allows a 'photo' to be taken of sound from different places? Similar to an ultrasound that is used in the medical field, but can be used more like a camera. I know about Schlieren Imaging but I'm thinking more like a map of all the sounds at a moment, maybe even with color coding for different pitch sounds?
 
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If you had an array of microphones you could synchronously record all the audio, then synthesise an image using interferometry as is done with VLBI radio astronomy. Because the attenuation of sound is frequency dependent you will get different pictures at different wavelengths and ranges. Wind will also distort the image.

The beam pattern of the array will be highly wavelength dependent. I expect that image generation will rely very heavily on the FFT of the data.

Long distance audio pictures of the landscape will be low frequency only. Ultrasonic images may be possible over tens of metres. For example; a directional ultrasound microphone can be used to identify corona discharge or breakdown of insulators on electrical power lines.
 
Your description sounds like the seismic methods used in oil exploration.
 
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Logs said:
Is there any sensor or method that allows a 'photo' to be taken of sound from different places? Similar to an ultrasound that is used in the medical field, but can be used more like a camera. I know about Schlieren Imaging but I'm thinking more like a map of all the sounds at a moment, maybe even with color coding for different pitch sounds?

But an ultrasound is not an image of sound! It is an image of objects that reflect the sound waves. Saying that it is an image of sound is similar to saying that objects that we see when we switch on light is an image of light.

If what you want is to detect the intensity or loudness of sound with respect to spatial position, then as has been suggested, you will need an array of microphones. Otherwise, you will have to define what you really want.

Zz.
 
Seismic surveys map 3D underground structures. The seismic waves are refracted and reflected by the structures, the waves do not travel in straight lines but by many paths. Given a single impulse, the software must solve for the 3D structure based on the return of energy via many paths to each of the several geophones on the surface.

Like seismic reflection, radar and sonar transmit a signal and produce an image of the reflectors. They do not image multiple remote sources of energy.

Interferometry has the advantage of a more isotropic propagation medium so it can reconstruct an image of the multiple sources of remote sound excitation. It may be possible to sharpen the image by deconvolving the intervening atmospheric distortions.

Acoustic direction finding was used during WW1 and WW2 for gun and aircraft location. It did not produce an image, just a direction. See the four pictures here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_location
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_location
There is some work on acoustic DF taking place today. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5134470/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5134470/

Acoustic imaging should be able to highlight the sources of sounds and superimpose them on a visual camera image. It should also be possible to separate out the individual conversations in a crowd by optimising multiple synthesised acoustic spot beams.

Imagine a visual image of a highway with the noise from individual vehicles superimposed in real time, tracking the vehicles as they move. If the array is large enough there will be doppler information available.

Logs said:
a map of all the sounds at a moment
The image will not be made at “a moment” in time. It will be the accumulation of energy over a period of time. I would expect a minimum of 10 seconds recording since low frequencies are involved and full cycles of sound are needed to correlate the different channels and straddle the receive array.
 
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But an ultrasound is not an image of sound! It is an image of objects that reflect the sound waves.

That's a good point. @Logs, can you clarify your question.
 
The sound pressure waves caused by supersonic airflow in a wind tunnel can be imaged but I haven't looked to see how they do it. Perhaps something to do with pressure changes causing the refractive index to change??

https://goo.gl/images/wkSmJ5
 
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Logs said:
Is there any sensor or method that allows a 'photo' to be taken of sound from different places? Similar to an ultrasound that is used in the medical field, but can be used more like a camera. I know about Schlieren Imaging but I'm thinking more like a map of all the sounds at a moment, maybe even with color coding for different pitch sounds?
Most sound waves aren't standing waves so i think you would have the same colour everywhere unless you make the brightness proportional to the loudness.

Perhaps think up a scenario and make a drawing by hand showing what you want it to look like?
 
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There are at least a couple of ways to map free-field pressure waves( i.e. sound) , both use lasers: acousto-optic measurements using a vibrometer; and photon correlation spectroscopy.

Here is a link with a description of the former
https://www.theverge.com/2011/11/8/2545157/national-physical-laboratory-visualize-sound-lasers

http://www.npl.co.uk/commercial-services/sectors/advanced-manufacturing/laser-based-acousto-optic-mappingIs this the kind of thing the OP was referring to?
 
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The OP hasn't been heard from since #1.
 
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