Can Sulfuric Acid Be Safely Stored in a Plastic Container?

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The discussion centers on the safe storage of a 35% sulfuric acid solution in plastic containers, particularly in the context of reusing electrolyte from lead-acid batteries. Participants explore the compatibility of sulfuric acid with various materials, potential decomposition of the acid over time, and the implications for battery maintenance.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether a 35% sulfuric acid solution can be safely stored in plastic, noting that sulfuric acid can react with certain plastics, particularly esters.
  • One participant suggests using glass or containers specifically designed for acid storage instead of plastic.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential need for the battery components to remain wet for proper functionality after reintroducing the acid, with some suggesting that the battery may not work immediately after the acid is added back.
  • There is a mention that sulfuric acid should not decompose at a noticeable rate in a clean storage container, but reactions with contaminants could occur.
  • Another participant shares information about lead-acid batteries retaining charge well over time and the effects of temperature on battery storage.
  • It is noted that contemporary lead-acid batteries with plastic cases may not require elevation above concrete to prevent discharge, contradicting earlier beliefs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the safety of using plastic containers for sulfuric acid storage, with some advocating for glass instead. There is no consensus on the best practices for maintaining battery functionality after acid removal and reintroduction, indicating ongoing uncertainty in the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the lack of definitive data regarding the reactions of sulfuric acid with various plastics and the long-term stability of the acid in storage. The discussion also highlights assumptions about battery maintenance that may vary based on the specific type of battery.

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This discussion may be of interest to individuals involved in battery maintenance, chemistry, or those exploring safe storage solutions for corrosive substances.

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Can a solution of 35% sulfuric acid and 65% water be safely stored in a plastic bottle? That is, does sulfuric acid of this concentration react with any or all plastics? if plastic is not acceptable, what type of storing container could safely contain the acid?

If interested, what I have in mind here is removing the electrolyte from a fully-charged lead-acid battery to be reinserted into the cells of the battery at some future time to reactivate the battery. The purpose is to be able to have an arrangement for providing emergency 12V power with minimal maintenance, that is, avoiding the need to periodically charge the battery.

An additional concern of mine is whether or not the sulfuric acid in an uncontaminated storage container would decompose over time. If decomposition would occur, at what rate would it occur?

Searching with google, I couldn't find any information concerning this, except that it is apparently easier to store sulfuric acid in a highly concentrated form.

Thanks in advance for any information about how to go about doing this in a safe manner.
 
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Can a solution of 35% sulfuric acid and 65% water be safely stored in a plastic bottle? That is, does sulfuric acid of this concentration react with any or all plastics? if plastic is not acceptable, what type of storing container could safely contain the acid?
Yes sulfuric acid can react with plastic. Esters in particular are easily destroyed by acid. Use glass, or a container that was specifically designed to hold acid.

If interested, what I have in mind here is removing the electrolyte from a fully-charged lead-acid battery to be reinserted into the cells of the battery at some future time to reactivate the battery. The purpose is to be able to have an arrangement for providing emergency 12V power with minimal maintenance, that is, avoiding the need to periodically charge the battery.
I have no data to back this up, but this sounds like a bad idea. It's possible that some things in the battery need to be kept wet in order to work properly, and that the battery won't work immediately after you pour the acid back into it. As an example, if the sides of the battery are separted by a membrane, it might take time before the membrane is wet enough to be usable. Or if the battery has something like a tube filled with cotton balls connecting the two sides together, that entire tube has to be set before ions can flow from one side to the other.

If you really want to keep the battery usable for a long period of time, put it on wood blocks. Car batteries tend to die very quickly if you let them sit on concrete, but they hold a charge for months/years if they sit on wood blocks.

An additional concern of mine is whether or not the sulfuric acid in an uncontaminated storage container would decompose over time. If decomposition would occur, at what rate would it occur?
The acid by itself should not decompose at any noticeable rate, but it's possible it would react with stuff left in the container. Sulfuric acid stored in a glass bottle should keep a very steady concentration over long periods of time.
 
The case of the battery in question is made of ... plastic.
 
reply to 12-01 post by ShawnD

Thanks for your feedback, especially the information about lead-acid batteries holding their charges well over months to a year.

At the website www.batteryfaq.org, there is an article going into lead-acid batteries retaining charge in great detail. Apparently storing the battery at cold temperatures (below freezing) is useful for slowing down the rate of discharge while the battery is not used. Conversely, warm temperatures severely curtail the length of time a battery can be stored without significantly losing its charge.

At the same site, they say that the need for supporting a battery above a concrete floor on wood to prevent discharge does not apply to contemporary lead-acid batteries constructed with plastic cases.

Regards,
Pete
 
Interesting info you've found. Thanks for the link.
 

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