Can Supernovas Disrupt Entire Stars Without Remnant?

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The discussion centers on the possibility of supernovae completely disrupting stars without leaving any remnants. Participants explore different types of supernovae, particularly Type 1A and core-collapse supernovae, and whether it is feasible for a star to be entirely obliterated during such an event.

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  • Some participants propose that Type 1A supernovae can result in the star blowing itself apart without leaving a massive remnant.
  • Others clarify that Type 1A supernovae originate from a binary system involving a white dwarf, which itself is a stellar remnant before the explosion.
  • One participant questions whether a core-collapse supernova could completely obliterate a single star without leaving a remnant, suggesting that core-collapse typically results in either a neutron star or a black hole.
  • Another participant mentions that while a stellar fragment usually remains after a core collapse, an asymmetric collapse might not leave any condensed matter fragment.
  • Historical modeling challenges are noted, where early supernova models struggled to predict remnants when explosive energy reached certain thresholds.
  • One participant recalls that rare supermassive stars might undergo a runaway particle-antiparticle reaction, potentially leading to no remnant being left behind.
  • Discussion includes the concept of pair-instability supernovae, which are theorized to occur in very massive stars and may not leave remnants due to their explosive nature.

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Participants express differing views on whether supernovae can completely disrupt stars without remnants. Some agree that certain types of supernovae may lead to this outcome, while others maintain that remnants are typically left behind, indicating an unresolved debate.

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Participants note that the discussion involves complex astrophysical models and assumptions about stellar evolution, which may not be universally agreed upon or fully understood.

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Hey guys, quick question, I know that the usual stellar remnants are the White Dwarf, Neutron Star, and Black Hole, depending on the initial mass of the Star. I was wondering if some Super-Novas could be so catastrophic that the entire star, including its degenerate core was disrupted so that there would be no remnant (it was all blasted out into space)? Is that possible, or does every star necessarily evolve into one of those three?
 
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In fact, that's exactly what happens in a Type 1A supernova - the star basically blows itself apart without leaving a massive remnant,
 
But a Type 1A supernova originates from a binary between a White Dwarf and another star that's losing mass to this white dwarf. The white dwarf was the stellar remnant, and then the SN destroys it.

My question was more along the lines of a single star that could be completely obliterated by the core-collapse supernova. Perhaps my question wasn't specific enough.

Thanks for your input though. :)
 
I think a core collapse supernova always leaves a remnant - either a neutron star or a black hole.
 
A stellar fragment [e.g., neutron star] normally remains after a core collapse, but, is not guaranteed. It is possible an asymmetric collapse may not leave a condensed matter fragment.
 
Indeed, in the early days of SN modeling one of the big problems was to leave a remnant. The models were predicting no remnants once the explosive energy got anywhere near 1050 or 1051.
 
IIRC, rare super massive stars create a runaway particle-antiparticle reaction in their cores which rip them apart from the inside out, so that there is no remnant.
 
hmm interesting...I may look some of this stuff up...somewhere... XD

Thanks.
 
You're welcome! Here's an article about these stars:

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2009/12/supergiant-star-destroyed-by-antimatter-triggered-meganukeweve-just-seen-the-largest-explosion-ever-recorded-a-supergiant-st.html
 
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Those stars Arch2008 mentioned result in a "pair-instability" supernova. They are thought to result from stars with masses greater than about 140 solar masses. These stars do not really form in today's universe due to enrichment of heavy metals (elements heavier than helium). These heavy elements act as opacity sources, effectively limiting the possible size of a forming star.

There was a report late last year about a possible observation of a pair-instability supernova:

http://arxiv.org/abs/1001.1156"
 
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