Can Teflon Tape Withstand the Attack of Etching Solutions?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of using Teflon tape as a mask for etching silicon with a corrosive mixture of HF, HNO3, and acetic acid. Participants explore the challenges of achieving a high etching rate while considering alternative etching methods and the implications for the underlying structures.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks advice on the optimal ratio of HF, HNO3, and acetic acid for etching 525um of p-type silicon.
  • Another participant suggests considering anisotropic etchants like KOH/IPA, noting that they are safer and can be effectively masked with SiO2.
  • Concerns are raised about the effectiveness of Teflon tape as a mask against the corrosive etching solution, with one participant questioning how Teflon would be deposited and etched.
  • Participants discuss the implications of using isotropic versus anisotropic etching, with one noting that isotropic etching could lead to rounded sides and difficulty in controlling the etching process.
  • One participant describes their specific etching requirements, including the need to etch a 7x7mm square through the silicon to reveal a bonded copper structure beneath.
  • Another participant expresses skepticism about the durability of Teflon tape in the etching process, predicting that the adhesive would degrade and lead to unwanted etching of silicon.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential impact of the etching solution on the copper pillar beneath the silicon die.
  • One participant proposes customizing a Teflon holder to better control the etching process, while another expresses pessimism about the success of this approach.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the effectiveness of Teflon tape as a mask or the best etching method to use. Multiple competing views on etching techniques and the suitability of materials remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the performance of Teflon tape in the presence of corrosive etching solutions and the potential effects on underlying structures. There are also unresolved questions about the specifics of etching rates and patterns.

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Im trying to etch 525um (100) p-type silicon, and i intend to use HF+HNO3+CH3COOH for high etching rate since i need to etch 525um of Si. does anyone know what ratio should i use to obtain high etching rate?

I am trying to look for a mask that is able to withstand the attack of the etching solution, would the teflon tape withstand the cp4 attack? if not, can anyone with experieces let me know what can withstand etching solution's attack?

thank
 
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Below are a couple of references to get you started. The problem with HF/HNO3/CH3COOH is finding a mask that will with stand this very corrosive mixture long enough to etch through the silicon. I suggest you look instead at anisotropic etchants instead. A simple KOH/IPA mixture will etch through the silicon and is easily masked with SiO2. Plus it is much safer and easier to work with.https://www.seas.upenn.edu/~nanosop/documents/IsotropicSiliconEtch.pdf

https://www.ee.washington.edu/research/microtech/cam/PROCESSES/PDF%20FILES/WetEtching.pdf

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etchi...t_etching_.28Orientation_dependent_etching.29
 
Thanks for reply, if I use anisotropic KOH, it will etch very slowly once it hits 111 plane, then I won't be able to etch through the 525 um thickness, so I should use corrosive HF/HNO3/Acetic acid method.

I'm wondering if it is possible to use Teflon as a mask to withstand its attack? Such as the Teflon etching cell like this http://sailorgroup.ucsd.edu/research/porous_Si_intro.html
 
depot123 said:
Thanks for reply, if I use anisotropic KOH, it will etch very slowly once it hits 111 plane, then I won't be able to etch through the 525 um thickness, so I should use corrosive HF/HNO3/Acetic acid method.

What does the pattern that you are trying to etch look like? How small of a pattern are you trying to etch all the way through the silicon? Bear in mind that with an isotropic etch it will etch sideways at least as far as down. So the minimum pattern that you can etch will be 2* 525 microns. You could achieve the same result by upsizing the pattern by 525 microns per side and using an anisotropic etch. As long as the pattern is larger than 2 * 525 microns, the anisotropic etch will etch all the way through.

I'm wondering if it is possible to use Teflon as a mask to withstand its attack? Such as the Teflon etching cell like this http://sailorgroup.ucsd.edu/research/porous_Si_intro.html

I don't know. Maybe. How will you deposit and etch the teflon?
 
my die is about 9x9 mm and i am trying to etch a square of 7x7mm on the center of the die, so it is quite large.
I have a question about anistropic etching using such as KOH, the etching rate would dramatically slow once it hit the 111 plane of silicon, resulitng a praymaid like etched structure, which is not what i want. Therefore, i am thinking it would be better to use isotropic etching, which it won't have such problem.
 
With anisotropic etching you will get an inverted pyramid with well defined sloped sides. With isotropic etching you will get rounded sides and the degree of rounding will depend on exactly how long you etch - it will be very hard to control. Do you want the opening 7mm wide at the top or at the bottom?

But it is your choice. If you use isotropic etching with teflon as a mask, how will you deposit and etch the teflon?
 
i would like to have the opening 7x7mm at the bottom. I have bonded copper pillar beanath the silicon die; i need to etch 7x7mm Si on the top to all the way down to the bottom in order to see the bonded structure.

If i use teflon as a mask, I am planning just ot use teflon tape, which is can tape around the die tightly and tape it in place on the teflon glass container, and then pour in the etching solution to it, and it will etch the exposed region on the silicon die. That is how i am planning to do, but i haven't had any Si etching experience before.
 
(1) I predict that the HF/Nitric/Acetic will eat away the adhesive on the teflon tape and you will end up etching away all of your silicon.

(2) What do you expect to happen to your copper pillar when the HF/Nitric/Acetic reaches it?
 
1) really?, then i might look for anther way in which customize a teflon cell/holder so i can mount my silicon die onto the teflon holder with exposed 7x7mm square on the top where i can pour in etching solution, just like the etching cell sailor's lab is using http://sailorgroup.ucsd.edu/research/Standard_cell_top_tapped_all.pdf
do you think it will work?

2) actually, i have Ni coating on the outside of copper pillar, and as long as i could keep track of as it apporach to the end of 525 um Si, it won't etch that much of my structure.
 
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Well, I'm pessimistic, but maybe I'm wrong. Go ahead and try your scheme and see if it works.
 

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