Can the Law of Cosines Solve the Distance Difference Problem?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the application of the Law of Cosines to solve a problem related to distance differences in a geometric context. Participants explore various functions and transformations that could relate distances in a specific manner, considering both theoretical and practical implications.

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  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • David seeks a function that satisfies the condition f(d1-p)=f(d2-d1)=f(d3-d2) and questions the validity of dividing by the angle between lines.
  • Another participant suggests a transformation of distances that could yield different functions for different positions, proposing f(d1)-f(p)=g(d2)-g(d1).
  • A further clarification is made about needing a difference function that produces the same output for two different distance inputs.
  • One participant introduces the Pythagorean theorem as a potential solution, suggesting a specific relationship between distances that maintains a constant difference.
  • David expresses concern about the necessity of knowing the value of p to apply the proposed solutions.
  • Another participant questions the feasibility of solving the problem without knowledge of p and asks for more information about how distances are obtained.
  • A later reply proposes that the Law of Cosines might be applicable to the problem, referencing an attachment for further details.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the approach to solving the problem, with multiple competing views on the necessity of knowing p and the applicability of different mathematical principles.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations regarding the assumptions about the values of p and the distances di, as well as the dependence on the specific geometric configuration presented in the attached document.

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See the image in the attached document. I am looking for a function which will make
f(d1-p)=f(d2-d1)=f(d3-d2) (see the very last part of the document)

I thought it would be as simple as dividing by the angle between the lines, but that doesn't seem to work. Is it reasonable to do this?

Thanks,

David
 

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I guess even better would be some transform of each distance, so that:

f(d1)-f(p)=f(d2)-f(d1)

of course f() may not be exactly the same function, it may depending on the position (i.e. it could be

f(d1)-f(p)=g(d2)-g(d1)

or something like that).
 
I guess another way to say it is:

"I need a difference function which will produce 'x' for f(p,d1) and also produce 'x' for f(d2,d1)"
 
Use the Pythagorean theorem:

f(di) = sqrt(di2 - p2) = i·x

This gives f(d1) = x, f(d2) = 2x, f(d3) = 3x, etc. I.e., it is the distance from where line p meets the plane to where line di meets the plane, which you have set up to be simply i·x in your figure. This satisfies your condition:

f(d1) - f(p) = f(d2) - f(d1) = f(d3) - f(d2) = constant = x
 
Gah, you are right. However, this requires I have p. What if I don't have p?
 
I'm not sure you can do this without knowing p.

What information do you have?
How do you get the values of the di's to begin with?
How do you plan to evaluate f(p) without knowing p?
 
I think it works if you just use the law of cosines. See attached.
 

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