Can Time Travel Really Alter Our Perception of Communication?

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The discussion revolves around the implications of time dilation in the context of a hypothetical space travel scenario, where a pilot accelerates at 1G around the Milky Way while maintaining communication with Earth. Participants explore how differing perceptions of time could affect communication between the pilot and those on Earth, particularly upon the pilot's return.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes a scenario where a pilot traveling at 1G experiences only 24 years of time, while 150,000 years pass on Earth, raising questions about communication during this period.
  • Another participant agrees that the time dilation effect would lead to a significant difference in the perception of time between the pilot and those on Earth, suggesting that the ratio of time experienced would be large, though it would vary during the trip.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of maintaining constant communication with the pilot, noting that communication delays would occur due to the finite speed of light, potentially leading to misalignment in time perception upon the pilot's return.
  • A later reply clarifies that while the pilot would receive communications from Earth at a rapid pace, he would not be conversing with individuals who had died thousands of years ago, but rather would experience a significant amount of time passing in a short duration of his own time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of time dilation for communication. While there is some agreement on the effects of time dilation, there is no consensus on the practicalities of maintaining communication or the consequences of time misalignment upon the pilot's return.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about the technology required for space travel and communication, as well as the effects of acceleration on time perception, which remain unresolved. The exact nature of time dilation and its impact on communication is not fully explored.

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Hi Guys and girls

First have very little knowledge of this stuff, but watched a tv program today that made my head spin a little bit. The threads I have read on this forum make it spin a little more, so I'd like to just post my question and hope there is a simple answer.

The program I watched spoke about someone accelerating at 1G on a trip around the milky way and someone waiting on Earth for them to return. The figures I may have recalled incorrectly but it was something like 150000 years the person would be waiting for them to return but to the person in the spaceship it would only feel like 24 years.

So the person returns 24 years older to find the Earth 150000 years older than they left it.

Now assuming we have the technology for this spaceship and then also the technology to build a continuous communication system with the pilot...

What happens then? For the pilot one second is equivalent to 6250 seconds on earth?!
 
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blake_jl said:
Now assuming we have the technology for this spaceship and then also the technology to build a continuous communication system with the pilot...

What happens then? For the pilot one second is equivalent to 6250 seconds on earth?!
I didn't check the numbers, but essentially yes, at least on average. Since the ship is accelerating the ratio between Earth seconds and ship seconds will vary over the course of the trip, but on average it will be quite large.
 
The point I was trying to make is that if you have constant communications with the pilot, when he returns the times won't align. He will be talking to someone who died thousands of years ago.

After thinking about it more, I think this would be impossible anyway. The communications wouldn't be instantaneous as the waves would have to travel and there would be massive delays.
 
blake_jl said:
The point I was trying to make is that if you have constant communications with the pilot, when he returns the times won't align. He will be talking to someone who died thousands of years ago.
He won't still be talking to someone who died thousands of years ago when he returns, it's just the pilot will (on average) see communications from Earth as running very quickly (like a video in fast-forward mode), so for example if he was receiving continuous video from a room on Earth he might see years of time pass in that room in only hours. So, he can indeed experience 15,000 years of communications from Earth in only 24 years of his own time.
 

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