High School Can we get a real image of virtual objects?

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The discussion centers on the concept of obtaining real images from virtual objects, particularly in the context of optics and lenses. Participants clarify that virtual objects, which cannot be projected onto a screen, can still lead to real images through processes like refraction in lenses. Holograms are debated as potential examples of virtual objects that can create real images, with some types allowing light to pass through the image location. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the definitions and mechanics behind virtual and real images rather than getting caught up in terminology. Overall, it is established that while virtual objects themselves cannot be directly observed, they can contribute to the formation of real images in specific scenarios.
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Is it possible to get a real image of virtual objects, If so please explain with examples and some real life situations?

Look at my assertion "rays will not pass through virtual objects so how it can form real image", is this possible, please help.
 
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navneet9431 said:
Is it possible to get a real image of virtual objects,
What do you mean by "virtual objects" exactly? Every object that you can see sharply, forms a real image on your retina.
 
navneet9431 said:
Is it possible to get a real image of virtual objects, If so please explain with examples and some real life situations?

Look at my assertion "rays will not pass through virtual objects so how it can form real image", is this possible, please help.

Isn't a hologram a "virtual object"?

Zz.
 
A rainbow?

Or do you mean this?
https://www.quora.com/What-are-virtual-objects-in-optics said:
We use the term virtual object while deriving the equation of lens. A lens has two surface. while deriving the equation. In the first part of derivation a virtual image(a image that cannot be projected on a screen) is formed by the first surface. The object of this lens surface is real.

In the second part of derivation considering the second lens surface, the virtual image of the first lens surface is taken as a Virtual object for second surface and we solve the derivation. This virtual object create a real image which we can see. We cannotdirectly observe the virtual object
 
navneet9431 said:
Is it possible to get a real image of virtual objects, If so please explain with examples and some real life situations?
Yes. Look in a mirror. What you see is a real image formed on your retina of a virtual object in the mirror
 
ZapperZ said:
Isn't a hologram a "virtual object"?

Zz.
I'm not sure that's true for all holograms. I believe there are projection holograms where the light forms a real image which appears three dimensional and where the light passes through the location of the image. I would class that as a real image. But here we are again worrying about what to call something instead of discussing how something works.
 
sophiecentaur said:
I'm not sure that's true for all holograms. I believe there are projection holograms where the light forms a real image which appears three dimensional and where the light passes through the location of the image. I would class that as a real image. But here we are again worrying about what to call something instead of discussing how something works.

I was being facetious. Often time, people do not know what they mean by "virtual object". In a hologram, the object itself is not that, merely a "replay" of the image that has been imprinted.

Both Dale and anorlunda have replied to the issue of virtual image in the "optics" sense.

Zz.
 
Here's an example. The incoming rays from the left converge towards a virtual object at the right of the lens, but never actually pass through it, except for the single ray through the center of the lens. After refraction, the outgoing rays converge towards a real image and actually pass through it.

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