Can we now explain the Fine Structure Constant?

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The discussion revolves around the Fine Structure Constant, specifically its value of approximately 1/137 and whether it can be explained. Participants explore historical references, mathematical relationships, and the implications of these ideas.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested, Historical, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that the Fine Structure Constant cannot be explained as 1/137.
  • Others reference a paper by Hans Bethe that suggests a relationship between the Fine Structure Constant and absolute zero, specifically $$ T_0=(1-\frac 2 \alpha )$$.
  • A participant mentions that Bethe's publication was eventually withdrawn, indicating controversy surrounding the claim.
  • Multiple participants report testing the equation related to Bethe's claim, with one noting that while it works, it is perceived as a joke.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on whether the Fine Structure Constant can be explained, with some supporting the idea of a mathematical relationship while others maintain that no explanation exists.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes references to historical context and the withdrawal of a publication, which may affect the credibility of the claims made. There is also ambiguity regarding the interpretation of the equation and its implications.

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In this video Dirac talks about the Fine Structure Constant 1/137.
Can we now explain why this is?

 
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But Hans Bethe wrote a paper showing that it was related to absolute zero $$ T_0=(1-\frac 2 \alpha )$$ where ## T_0## is absolute zero in Celsius and alpha the fine structure constant (G. Beck, H. Bethe & W. Riezler 1931: Naturwissenschaften 19, 39.)
 
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He was making fun of Eddington. Pissed some people off. He was a tremendously interesting fellow...perhaps the most interesting I ever met. But the publication did finally get formally withdrawn.
 
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I tested out the equation above on a calculator and it works!
 
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Quantum_Physics123 said:
I tested out the equation above on a calculator and it works!
It works, but that’s what makes it a good joke.
 
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