Can We Use Quantum Mechanics to Reset Our Biological State?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion explores the concept of using quantum mechanics to potentially reset biological states, particularly in relation to health and disease. Participants consider the implications of subatomic arrangements and the feasibility of reverting to a previous state of well-being.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that since humans are made of subatomic particles, resetting their arrangements could theoretically restore health, although this idea is acknowledged as far-fetched given current technology.
  • Another participant interprets the idea as akin to time travel, proposing that it involves tracing back the information of a system to a previous state.
  • A different viewpoint compares the proposed method of healing to disassembling and reassembling a Rubik's cube, questioning whether the resulting entity would still be the same as before.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of determining if the desired state is possible and whether it can be achieved through transformation or requires disassembly and reassembly, noting current limitations in manipulating matter at the particle level.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various perspectives on the feasibility and implications of using quantum mechanics for biological reset, indicating that multiple competing views remain without a consensus on the viability of the proposed ideas.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge limitations in current technology and the complexity of manipulating matter at a subatomic level, which may affect the feasibility of the discussed concepts.

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i was thinking, if we are made up of protons and neutrons at a subatomic level then pain,disease and all our ailments are specific arrangements of subatomic particles. would not our goal be to reset the energy arrangements to a time when we were well(i know this is far fetched in relation to our current technology but i believe the concept warrants merit)
 
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genphis said:
i was thinking, if we are made up of protons and neutrons at a subatomic level then pain,disease and all our ailments are specific arrangements of subatomic particles. would not our goal be to reset the energy arrangements to a time when we were well(i know this is far fetched in relation to our current technology but i believe the concept warrants merit)

You are essentially referring to time travel... as you would be tracing back the lineage of information about the system to a time when the information of the system was something else. Check out my thread on quantum information and how it is only created and never destroyed:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=368284
 
I think that this method of curing people would be like decomposing a messed up Rubik's cube to it's constituent molecules and then rearranging those molecules to form a cube in its solved state. There's probably a lot of better ways to go at it...

Also, there's the question of "is that the same Rubik's cube/human as before?".
 
This is the right way to start thinking about a problem. First we ask, "As far as we know, is the state we want possible?" If yes, is there a possible pathway by which the current state can be transfomed into the desired state (in other words, going back to the rubik's cube analogy, can that state be rotated to, or would you have to disassemble the cube to do so? Of all the possible positions of the pieces in the cube, either 1/10 or 1/12 (I forget which) of them can be rotated to. The rest require disassembly and reassembly (actually, there are 10 or 12 possible assemblies, each allowing 1/10 or 1/12 of the poistions to be rotated to).

however, as of now, we can't make changes to large amounts of matter particle by particle. We need pathways, which for us tend to be chemical reactions or physical changes.
 

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