How to explain the nuclear radius of Uranium 238 using QM

In summary, the conversation discussed the process of determining the nuclear charge radius through direct measurement of Coulomb energy differences. It was noted that the nuclear force treats protons and neutrons equally, making it possible to measure the Coulomb energy difference between different nuclei. However, calculating this effect accurately for nuclei like Uranium 238 is challenging and requires the use of effective models and numerical simulations. The conversation also touched on using quantum mechanics to determine the nuclear radius and the limitations of this approach.
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I am studying how to determine the nuclear charge radius from direct measurement of the Coulomb energy differences of nuclei.

My book says that there is strong evidence which suggests that the nuclear force does not distinguish between protons and neutrons. Thus changing a proton into a neutron should not affect the nuclear energy of the system; only the Coulomb energy should change. Besides, it works out an easy example; transition from He to H; the energy difference between He and H is thus a measure of the Coulomb energy of the second proton, and the usual formula for the Coulomb repulsion energy can be used to calculate the distance between the protons and thus the size of the nucleus.

Then presents the difficulties of working with Uranium 238; 'in general it is not possible to calculate this effect to sufficient accuracy to be able to extract the Coulomb energy'. But then it starts focus on mirror nuclei pairs;

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As you can see it derived a formula for energy differences on mirror nuclei but forgot about U; how could we explain the nature of the nuclear radius of Uranium 238 if we cannot do so by Coulomb's law?
I would like to discuss it using quantum mechanics.
 

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There are many methods to determine the radius of a nucleus. Tritium vs. helium-3 is a rare case where you can calculate the radius just from the decay energy, but it doesn't "explain the nature of the nuclear radius", it just gives you a way to measure the radius for two nuclei.

You can calculate the nuclear radius that minimizes the total energy of the nucleus. That is complicated and it is only an approximation because nuclei don't have sharp borders. If you want to get a better estimate you'll need numerical simulations and effective models.
 
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Both you and Krane say that in general it is not possible to calculate this effect to sufficient accuracy to be able to extract the Coulomb energy.

But, as you can read, Krane does not get into how determine Uranium 238 radius: 'The situation is resolved if we choose a case in which no change of orbital is involved...' (which is not the Uranium's case).

mfb said:
You can calculate the nuclear radius that minimizes the total energy of the nucleus. That is complicated and it is only an approximation because nuclei don't have sharp borders. If you want to get a better estimate you'll need numerical simulations and effective models.

OK. May you tell how would you try to measure it with more details?
 

1. What is the nuclear radius of Uranium 238?

The nuclear radius of Uranium 238 is approximately 7.4 femtometers (fm), or 7.4 x 10^-15 meters. This is the distance from the center of the nucleus to the outer edge of the nuclear cloud.

2. How is the nuclear radius of Uranium 238 explained using quantum mechanics (QM)?

The nuclear radius of Uranium 238 can be explained using QM by considering the distribution of protons and neutrons within the nucleus. QM principles, such as the Heisenberg uncertainty principle and the Schrödinger equation, help to describe the probability of finding these particles at different distances from the center of the nucleus.

3. What factors affect the nuclear radius of Uranium 238?

The nuclear radius of Uranium 238 is primarily affected by the number of protons and neutrons in the nucleus, as well as the strong nuclear force that holds these particles together. The presence of other particles, such as electrons, also play a role in determining the overall size of the nucleus.

4. How does the nuclear radius of Uranium 238 compare to other elements?

Uranium 238 has one of the largest known nuclear radii among all elements. This is due to its large number of protons and neutrons, as well as its relatively unstable nucleus. However, the exact nuclear radius can vary slightly depending on the specific isotope of Uranium 238.

5. Can the nuclear radius of Uranium 238 be measured experimentally?

Yes, the nuclear radius of Uranium 238 can be measured experimentally using various techniques such as electron scattering, x-ray diffraction, and nuclear reactions. These methods allow scientists to indirectly observe the size of the nucleus and confirm the predictions made by QM calculations.

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