Can x^2/2 + y Be Considered an Antiderivative of x?

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The discussion centers around the concept of antiderivatives in the context of functions of multiple variables. Participants explore whether the expression x^2/2 + y can be considered an antiderivative of x, particularly focusing on the implications of treating y as a variable rather than a constant.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant asserts that x^2/2 is an antiderivative of x, questioning if x^2/2 + y can also be considered one since its partial derivative with respect to x equals x.
  • Another participant suggests that in the context of a differentiable function f(x,y), if fx = x, then f(x,y) can be expressed as x^2/2 + g(y), where g is a function of y, indicating a method of anti-differentiation relevant to Exact Differential Equations.
  • A third participant expresses a casual agreement with the initial query but seeks clarification on the reasoning behind it.
  • One participant questions the formal definition of an antiderivative, pondering whether it can include functions of multiple variables or if it must be restricted to functions solely of x.
  • Another participant argues against the idea that x^2/2 + y can be considered an antiderivative of x, emphasizing the fundamental differences between functions of one variable and those of multiple variables, and suggesting that this would also imply that xy could be an antiderivative of x.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether x^2/2 + y qualifies as an antiderivative of x, with some supporting the idea and others contesting it based on the nature of the functions involved. The discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the distinction between functions of one variable and functions of multiple variables, as well as the implications of treating y as a variable in the context of antiderivatives.

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x^2/2 is an antiderivative of x, for the derivative of x^2/2 with respect to x is x. Formally speaking, can I consider x^2/2 + y, where y is a variable and not a constant, to be an antiderivative of x, since the partial derivative of x^2/2 + y with respect to x equals x?
 
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When dealing with a differentiable function f(x,y), if fx = x then f(x,y) = x2/2 + g(y), where g is a function of y. An easy application of this kind of anti-differentiation is solving Exact Differential Equations. I don't know, that's my two cents worth.
 


Sure, why not? Also, why do you ask?
 


For no special reason. I'm just trying to understand if one can formally define an antiderivative of f(x) to be any function F(x,y,...,n) whose derivative with respect to x is f(x), or if an antiderivative is specifically those functions F(x) whose derivative w.r.t x is f(x).
 


Strictly speaking, no. Because the function f(x) = x and f(x,y) = x are fundamentally different. Notice that the derivative of the first is also a function of the same type, while in the second is given by a matrix.
If you consider x2/2 + y to be an antiderivative of x, then the variables x and y must be considered in equal footing, so why prefer the partial derivative relative to x? You must also admit xy as an antiderivative to x.
 

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