Can You Calculate Time Change Over 40 Centuries?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem related to calculating the cumulative effect of an increase in the length of a day over a span of 40 centuries. Participants are exploring how to approach the problem, which involves concepts of arithmetic series and the implications of time measurement over extended periods.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the problem, noting that the length of a day increases by 0.0010 seconds per century and seeks help in calculating the cumulative effect over 40 centuries.
  • Another participant suggests using the formula for the sum of an arithmetic series to find the solution.
  • A different participant interprets the problem as simply resulting in an increase of 0.04 seconds over 40 centuries, questioning the interpretation of "cumulative effect."
  • Some participants propose that the additional time accrued from the increase in day length would slightly extend the total time beyond 0.04 seconds, suggesting a recursive addition of the increase.
  • One participant raises a concern about the definition of a century and its relation to the length of a day, arguing that the increase in day length may not be relevant to the definition of time measurement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of the problem, particularly regarding the meaning of "cumulative effect" and the relevance of the increase in day length to the definition of a century. There is no consensus on how to approach the calculation or the implications of the increase.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved assumptions regarding the definitions of time and the implications of day length on time measurement. The discussion reflects varying interpretations of the problem statement and the mathematical approach required.

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This problem is baffling myself and several of my friends in the infamous Physics 152 class... so I give it to you to solve. It was on the homework earlier today, and no one got it. Needless to say, we got 5/6 on the homework as a result. But the problem has been bugging us since. So, I was hoping you may have a solution on how to solve this or setup a function of time to assist in solving this.

The question reads as follows:

Assuming the length of day uniformly increased by .0010 secs per century, calculate the cumulative effect one the measure of time over 40 (fourty) centuries.

I would really appreciate help on this problem guys and girls. Thx in advance!
 
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You need to sum the terms in an arithmetic series which is just the average of the first and last term multiplied by the number of terms.
 
I'm not sure I understand the question but it seems simple. If the length of a day increases by .0010 secs per century then in 40 centuries the length of a day will have increased by 40(0.0010) = 0.04 seconds.

(I would not interpret "cumulative effect" to mean the sum of the lengths of the days.)
 
I think he also meant that since you will have an added 0.04 seconds to your 40 centuries, those 40 centuries would last a little bit longer, and hence you would get slightly more than 0.04 seconds added. Basically, youd need to add the same ratio of 0.001seconds/century to the 0.04 added seconds, and then add it again to this new added time, etc.

Now, this added length would be extremely small and would practically be 0.04 seconds.
 
tmc said:
I think he also meant that since you will have an added 0.04 seconds to your 40 centuries, those 40 centuries would last a little bit longer, and hence you would get slightly more than 0.04 seconds added. Basically, youd need to add the same ratio of 0.001seconds/century to the 0.04 added seconds, and then add it again to this new added time, etc.

Now, this added length would be extremely small and would practically be 0.04 seconds.

That may well be. However, since a century is defined as 100 years and not a specific number of days (a year itself is defined as the time it takes the Earth to orbit the sun- not a specific number of days) I would think that the length of a day would not matter.
 
AMD ZEN said:
This problem is baffling myself and several of my friends in the infamous Physics 152 class... so I give it to you to solve.
Ah, yes, the infamous Physics 152. We talk about it all the time at work. You'd be amazed just how much anguish that course causes us, we can barely get anything done in the day because of its mere existence. It's even more notorious than econimcs 234, if you ask me.
 
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