MHB Can You Determine the Value of A When B Equals 4 in a Trigonometric Equation?

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To determine the value of A when B equals 4 in the equations A = 3sin(x) + 4cos(x) and B = 3cos(x) - 4sin(x), it is established that if B = 4, then x = 3π/2. Substituting this value into the equation for A yields A = -3. Some participants explored alternative methods to derive A, including manipulating the equations directly and squaring them to find a relationship between A and B. The final conclusion is that A can equal either 3 or -3, depending on the context of the problem. The discussion emphasizes the importance of checking for extraneous solutions when squaring equations.
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A=3sinx+4cosx and B=3cosx-4sinx if B = 4 find A.

What i tried is to use 4=3cosx-4sinx and solve for cosx

now cosx = (4+4sinx)/3 plug this into A

I end up getting A = (25sinx+16)/3 am I correct?
 
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Re: Trigonometric equatio

NotaMathPerson said:
A\;=\,3\sin x+4\cos x\,\text{ and }\,B\,=\,3\cos x-4\sin x.

\text{If }B = 4.\,\text{ find }A.

\text{If }B = 4,\,\text{then }\,x = \tfrac{3\pi}{2}

\text{Then: }\,A \:=\:3\sin\tfrac{3\pi}{2} + 4\cos\tfrac{3\pi}{2} \:=\:3(-1) + 4(0) \:=\: -3
 
Re: Trigonometric equatio

soroban said:
\text{If }B = 4,\,\text{then }\,x = \tfrac{3\pi}{2}

\text{Then: }\,A \:=\:3\sin\tfrac{3\pi}{2} + 4\cos\tfrac{3\pi}{2} \:=\:3(-1) + 4(0) \:=\: -3
Hello soroban!

How did you get the value for x?
 
Re: Trigonometric equatio

I wrote: If B = 4,\, then x = \tfrac{3\pi}{2}
Here is the reasoning behind that claim.

We are given: B \,=\,3\cos x - 4\sin x
. . And we are told that: B = 4.
That is: 3\cos x - 4\sin x \:=\:4

This is true if \cos x = 0 and \sin x = -1.
Therefore: x \,=\,\tfrac{3\pi}{2}
 
Re: Trigonometric equatio

soroban said:
I wrote: If B = 4,\, then x = \tfrac{3\pi}{2}
Here is the reasoning behind that claim.

We are given: B \,=\,3\cos x - 4\sin x
. . And we are told that: B = 4.
That is: 3\cos x - 4\sin x \:=\:4

This is true if \cos x = 0 and \sin x = -1.
Therefore: x \,=\,\tfrac{3\pi}{2}

This isn't very rigorous, although I am impressed by your intuition :)

I would be more inclined to try to solve the problem directly...

$\displaystyle \begin{align*} A &= 3\sin{(x)} + 4\cos{(x)} \\ B &= 3\cos{(x)} - 4\sin{(x)} \\ \\ A^2 &= \left[ 3\sin{(x)} + 4\cos{(x)} \right] ^2 \\ B^2 &= \left[ 3\cos{(x)} - 4\sin{(x)} \right] ^2 \\ \\ A^2 &= 9\sin^2{(x)} + 24\sin{(x)}\cos{(x)} + 16\cos^2{(x)} \\ B^2 &= 9\cos^2{(x)} - 24\sin{(x)}\cos{(x)} + 16\sin^2{(x)} \\ \\ A^2 + B^2 &= 9\sin^2{(x)} + 24\sin{(x)}\cos{(x)} + 16\cos^2{(x)} + 9\cos^2{(x)} - 24\sin{(x)}\cos{(x)} + 16\sin^2{(x)} \\ A^2 + B^2 &= 25\left[ \sin^2{(x)} + \cos^2{(x)} \right] \\ A^2 + B^2 &= 25 \\ A^2 + 4^2 &= 25 \\ A^2 + 16 &= 25 \\ A^2 &= 9 \\ A &= \pm 3 \end{align*}$

Now you just have to check for extraneous solutions, as you have had to square the equations to be able to solve them.
 
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