Can You Get into Physics Grad School with a BA?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibility of gaining admission to physics graduate programs with a Bachelor of Arts (BA) in Physics, as opposed to a Bachelor of Science (BS) in Physics. Participants explore the implications of degree type, course requirements, and the importance of research experience and recommendations in the admissions process.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant is pursuing a BS in Materials Science and Engineering and a BA in Physics, expressing uncertainty about the necessity of a BS for graduate school admission.
  • Another participant suggests that admission criteria focus more on coursework, grades, research experience, and letters of recommendation rather than the specific degree type.
  • A participant clarifies that the BS requires additional courses compared to the BA, which may limit the ability to take higher-level classes within a four-year timeframe.
  • One participant argues that taking the extra courses for a BS or completing them before graduate studies would enhance appeal to graduate schools, while the BA alone may not be sufficient.
  • It is noted that some institutions, like Berkeley, only offer a BA in Physics.
  • Another participant provides advice on course selection, recommending Mechanics 2 and Quantum 2 for their importance in various fields, while also considering the coverage of advanced topics in Mechanics 1.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the importance of the degree type (BA vs. BS) for graduate school admission. While some believe that the specific degree may not matter as much as the coursework and experience, others emphasize the potential disadvantages of not having a BS.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific course sequences and requirements at their university, indicating that the discussion may be influenced by institutional policies and offerings. There is also an acknowledgment of the need for research experience, which may vary among individuals.

Who May Find This Useful

Students considering graduate studies in physics, particularly those weighing the implications of pursuing a BA versus a BS, may find this discussion relevant.

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Right now I'm working towards completing a BS in Materials Science and Engineering along with a BA in Physics in a couple of years. Although I'm not sure whether or not I want to pursue a Master's in Physics, I want to keep that option open for when the time comes.

I've looked at a few grad schools just as examples, and many stated that it was possible to enter physics graduate school without a BS in Physics. Has anyone, in their own experience, found that a graduate school would deny admission for Physics based on the premise that only the Physics BA was completed?

Thank you!
 
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As far as I know, what matters for grad school admission is the courses that you've taken, grades, research experience, and letters of recommendation; not the name of your degree (BA or BS).

What is the difference between a BA and a BS in physics at your university?
 
The difference between the BA and BS is that the BS has about four extra classes, but there's no way I can fit all of that in if I want to graduate in only four years (which I do). So I'd be missing out on some of the higher-level courses, but I can choose which ones I do end up taking.

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The physics BS from my university mainly consists of five two-course sequences for experimental physics, electromagnetism, statistical physics, classical mechanics, and quantum mechanics as well as a math elective. The BA consists of the first half of each of the sequences, two electives (either the second half of any sequence or another elective), and does not require the math elective.

Right now I'm considering Mechanics 2 and either Quantum 2 or Solid State Physics as my electives, but that could easily change once I get around to taking these classes.
 
If you want to go to grad school in physics, you'll either need to take the extra courses for the BS at your own school or take them in grad school at the undergrad level before starting the graduate coursework. That makes you less appealing to grad schools. The BA itself doesn't matter (I got into physics grad schools with a BA in physics, because that's all my college offered) but taking more junior and senior classes helps a lot. Plus an extra year would give you more time to get research experience. Quantum II was the one course I wish my undergrad school had offered but didn't.
 
For what its worth, Berkeley offers only a BA in physics
 
dabibbler said:
Right now I'm considering Mechanics 2 and either Quantum 2 or Solid State Physics as my electives,

As regards mechanics, IMO you should take Mechanics 2 if it covers Lagrangian and Hamiltonian mechanics and Mechanics 1 doesn't.

For your other elective, I'd go with Quantum 2 because QM is arguably the most important core subject in terms of usage in a variety of fields. If you can also squeeze in E&M 2 that would be great, but if you really have room for only one or the other, I'd go with Quantum 2.

If you do get some Lagrangian / Hamiltonian mechanics in Mechanics 1, then I'd skip Mechanics 2 and do both Quantum 2 and E&M 2.
 

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