Can you get pulled under a train?

  • Thread starter Thread starter dextercioby
  • Start date Start date
Click For Summary
The discussion centers around the potential for a person standing near a train track to be pulled under a passing train due to aerodynamic effects. While the train creates a low-pressure area that could theoretically exert a force on nearby individuals, the consensus is that this force is unlikely to be strong enough to pull a person of 100 kg under the train, especially if they are aware and braced. However, the aerodynamic effects can cause a person to lose balance and stumble, potentially leading to dangerous situations. Standing close to train tracks poses risks beyond just the pull of air, including misjudging the train's width and being blinded by dust. Overall, while the pull from a train is minimal, the dangers of proximity to moving trains are significant.
  • #31
.Scott said:
That last statement does not apply to US Navy carriers - since they can only be supplied this way on their starboard side.
But what if one of the carriers is running in reverse? Then two right sides are available.
 
  • Haha
Likes sophiecentaur
Engineering news on Phys.org
  • #32
jbriggs444 said:
But what if one of the carriers is running in reverse? Then two right sides are available.
Okay. We'll make you captain.
 
  • #33
jbriggs444 said:
But what if one of the carriers is running in reverse? Then two right sides are available.
Very difficult to reverse a straight line. The driver has to lean too far out of the bridge window to see behind him.
1763071315987.webp


Plus, the prop walk is brutal.
 
Last edited:
  • #34
.Scott said:
Okay. We'll make you captain.
"Wrong Way Peach Fuzz" at your service.
1763071800809.webp
 
Last edited:
  • #35
DaveC426913 said:
The driver has to lean too far out of the bridge window to see behind him.
All the Captain can do is to try to keep a steady course; he can't see a thing from the bridge. It's up to the Pilot boat helm to chase the boarding ladder. I imagine they have radio communication so the captain can stop (or start) worrying after the event.

PS Is it possible that Naval craft use commercial pilots? I guess they have no option in non-naval ports (Left hand down a bit)
 
  • #36
sophiecentaur said:
PS Is it possible that Naval craft use commercial pilots? I guess they have no option in non-naval ports (Left hand down a bit)

Decades ago, I worked with a Navy veteran with experience in this area. He reported a story about a particular instance of using a Maritime pilot - and his mention suggested that this was typical.

Of course, the Navy would not always opt for the services of a local pilot. The approach to the beach at Playa Girón, Cuba comes to mind as an example.
 
  • Like
Likes sophiecentaur
  • #37
dextercioby said:
Kurz gesagt: Ein praktisches Problem beim Aufenthalt in der Nähe von Bahngleisen. Kann/Sollte man das tun? Was wäre, wenn der Zug in Hanoi 100 km/h fahren würde?

Angenommen, ein 100 m langer (wahrscheinlich irrelevanter) Zug mit einer Geschwindigkeit von 30 m/s und einer Masse von 100.000 kg fährt an einer 100 kg schweren Person vorbei, die 1 m von den Gleisen entfernt steht. Da der Zug die Luft massiv verdrängt und so ein kleines Vakuum bzw. einen Unterdruckbereich erzeugt, übt er vermutlich eine Anziehungskraft auf alles aus, woran er vorbeifährt – in diesem Fall also auf eine Person. Meine Frage ist ganz einfach: Lässt sich diese Anziehungskraft durch eine Kraft quantifizieren? Reicht diese Kraft aus, um die Person unter den Zug zu ziehen? Was wäre, wenn der Abstand 50 cm betrüge?
First there is a pressure surge, then a weaker suction at the end. Only if you are standing very unsteadily could this cause you to fall over.
In Austria, a stroller once rolled under a train. The slight jolt was enough to set it rolling. Since then, there have been straps on the platform to secure strollers.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
3
Views
6K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
4K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
15K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
6K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
12K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
6K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
7K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
15K