How Far Can a Person Throw a Pebble?

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The discussion revolves around the question of how far and fast an average male can throw a pebble, considering various physical parameters and hypothetical scenarios. It explores the physics of throwing, including force, velocity, and the biomechanics involved in such an action.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes that the maximum distance and speed a person can throw a pebble depend on the force applied before release, which influences the pebble's initial velocity.
  • Another participant references a standard for human capabilities that could provide data relevant to the discussion, suggesting it might be useful for understanding the physical limits of throwing.
  • A different participant challenges the classification of the problem as a physics issue, suggesting it may belong in a different category of discussion.
  • In response to the previous challenge, a participant argues that the problem involves physics concepts such as arm length, acceleration, force, mass, and velocity, indicating that it is indeed a physics-related question.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether the question is fundamentally a physics problem, with some asserting its relevance to physics while others contest this classification. There is no consensus on the maximum velocity a person can achieve when throwing a pebble.

Contextual Notes

The discussion lacks specific data on human throwing capabilities and does not resolve the assumptions regarding the physical properties required for achieving the proposed outcomes.

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Throwing a pebble :)

How far (and fast) can a 1.8 m tall, 80 kg heavy (average male) person throw a pebble that's, say, 3 cm in diameter (without any help - just a man (his clothes included :) ) and a pebble - nothing more)?

It's a very interesting issue - think about it, it motivates. I mean - it's a kind of 'super-power' - as close as it gets. For example: imagine that you're left in a forest (no civilization in sight) you want to hunt something to eat but you have NOTHING on you that can serve you to accomplish such task; but you were training pebble-throwing all your life, and you are extremely precise and can deliver a lot of force (a wunderkind for it if you will). Man - it's THE simplest weapon - it cannot get any simpler than that! It's fascinating stuff - it's a genuine power for ya! You have your body, and pebbles are practically everywhere; people would be stunned seeing that you have a skill to turn that little elements (I mean - the basic ones!) into something that admirable. There's no other word for it - it's just - pure amazing...
So I, basically, in fact ask if it is possible at all.

I mean - never mind - take ANY approach you want... (the result is what's important here)
...Let's say: for testing purposes you have an adjustable machine/apparature that can fire pebbles and give you data on stuff about it; and you have a wild-bore or a deer 100m from it, so, first - how strong it must "fire a pebble" in order for it to hit that animal in a head (I mean - anywhere where it would be the most efficient) and incapacitate it?
Only then - how strong and agile must a person be to fire a pebble with such force and speed (I mean - it's not sharp, so pure force is of the essence here)?
(of course you don't have to stand still while throwing it; you can do anything you want - any technique - just to launch that pebble from your mere hand and it flies like a bullet)

I'm talking ballistic pebbles here. :)
 
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You need to work out how much force a man can apply to the object before he releases it. This will determine how fast it will be traveling just after he releases it, and how far he will be able to throw it.

I don't know whether you're looking for an answer here. I have no idea what the maximum velocity a man can throw a pebble with is!
 
If you dig through www.dstan.gov.uk[/URL] there is a standard for the human factors design of equipment which has all sorts of data about the capabilities of Men and Women covering 5th to 95th percentile human.

I would recommend it as not only a good cure for insomnia, but essential reading for people who design things that somebody else has to maintain.
How many times have you need to reach a nut 3 feet down a hole you can't get your hand through.
 
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This is not a physics problem. Moving to GD, and reporting, so perhaps the mentors can confab and figure out where it belongs.
 
Quote: "This is not a physics problem."

Length of arm, acceleration of objects, force, mass, velocity, properties of materials... it seems 'physics'...

(the main question was: What speed pebble must travel at to do the job, and what (I guess unrealistic) physical properties of a human would allow those results?)
 
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