Can you help me make rho and p look distinct in my handwriting?

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The discussion revolves around strategies for distinguishing between the lowercase Greek letter rho (ρ) and the Latin letter p in handwriting. Participants share their personal methods and experiences, exploring the challenges of differentiating these symbols, particularly in small sizes or when written quickly.

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  • Some participants suggest modifying the shape of rho and p, such as making rho more slanty or adding a curly tail to it.
  • Others propose using serifs or specific stroke orders to create distinct appearances for each letter.
  • A participant mentions writing rho backwards and describes their unique approach to forming both letters.
  • There is a discussion about the choice of Greek symbols that resemble Latin letters and whether alternatives could be used.
  • Some participants express humor regarding the challenges of writing certain mathematical expressions and the potential for confusion with similar-looking symbols.
  • A few participants share anecdotes about humorous phrases in mathematics, particularly in different languages.

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Participants generally share a variety of personal techniques for differentiating rho and p, but there is no consensus on a single effective method. The discussion includes multiple competing views and approaches.

Contextual Notes

Some participants mention specific challenges related to writing small or quickly, which may affect the clarity of the letters. There is also a note about the cultural context of language and humor in mathematics, which may influence perceptions of the symbols.

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Does anyone have any handwriting suggestions to keep rho (lowercase) and p from looking too alike?

Currently, I differentiate them by making the top left corner of rho rounded and keeping the top left corner of p pointed. However, this isn't a very noticeable difference, especially when writing them small (e.g. in exponents).
 
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What is rho?
 
rho = \rho

It's often used to represent density and the radial component in spherical coordinates, among other things.
 
Hi Just a nobody ! :smile:

I write p with a straight tail, and ρ with a nice curly tail. :-p
 
Why do they choose Greek symbols that resemble our alphabet? There's plenty of others they can choose from that look unique. Or are they all already taken?
 
Just wait until you get to write such lovely expressions as

\mathbf{X} \times \mathbf{\chi}(x)
 
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as a teacher, I make sure my students make a difference between rho and p, just as they must make a difference between nu and v. The trick is with seriphs.

the rho is a single stroke, starting below the line going up, curving around and NOT quite contacting the stem.

the "p" begins with a seriph, then downstroke, then up and looping to make definite contact with the stem.

Similarly, the nu begins with a straight down line, then a back-curving up stroke and maybe even a small inward seriph. The "v" is a "v" ending with an outward seriph.
 
I always just made rho a lot more slanty, plus it's more curved because you start at the bottom of the stem and draw it all in one stroke. A p starts with a straight up and down line.
 
Moonbear said:
I always just made rho a lot more slanty, plus it's more curved because you start at the bottom of the stem and draw it all in one stroke. A p starts with a straight up and down line.

Yes, I also made mine slanty, and I also put a curly tail on it.
 
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I write my rhos backwards from you people. I start at the baseline, draw the circular part counter-clockwise, and then follow through to the descender. I usually make the descender fairly straight, althought sometimes it has a slight wave in it.

For p, I first make the vertical line, and then make the circle in a second stroke.
 
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Ben Niehoff said:
... you people. ...

What do you mean, "you people"?


:-p
 
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I put a reverse (to the left) tail hook on rho.
 
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I write rho at an angle, and leave a gap in the circle part of it close to the stem.
 
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The question of whether a letter is rho or p is N \rho complete
 
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I also use serifs. A p will have a serif on the descender. A nu will have a serif on the right stroke. If I have an upper case X and a Chi, the X will have a serif on the top right.
 
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yes! rho is kinda italic and rounded, and "p" has a point sticking out.

But SERIOUSLY why do they do this? For example use x, y, and lambda! you can esasily erase/add a little line to each, specially when theyre subs. it is also horrible to see a badly drawn sigma with a little curve sticking out and it looks like theta. oh! and also "sub" z or "sub" 2... or, a less common, when its marker on board, they just poke a little dot: "is it... multiplying or substracting?" :-p
 
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also, silly question, but are there any phrasings of mathematics in english that are funny? For example, I had a teacher that literally couldn't contain her laughter every single time she said "sin of theta", in spanish "seno de la teta" seno=boob teta=tit... she also laughed with "p2" =fart in spanish... there were others but i can't remember
 
  • #18
Never send a spanish teacher to do a mathematicians job!
 
  • #19
ρ or ρ vs p

My favorite Greek symbol is \xi followed by \zeta
 

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