Can you help me solve this logarithmic equation: loga(2+x) = 2 + logax?

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The problem involves solving a logarithmic equation: loga(2+x) = 2 + logax. Participants are exploring the properties of logarithms and their applications in manipulating the equation.

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  • Participants discuss the transformation of the logarithmic equation and the implications of representing the number 2 as a logarithm. There is an exploration of rewriting the equation in terms of exponentials and the challenges of isolating the variable x.

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The discussion has progressed with participants offering insights and clarifications on the approach to take. There is recognition of the need to express x in terms of a, and some participants have provided algebraic manipulations that lead to potential expressions for x.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the logarithmic properties and the specific bases involved, which may affect their reasoning and the steps they take in solving the equation.

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Hi, I've been trying to work out:

loga(2+x) = 2 + logax

This is as far as I can get:

loga(2+x) - logax =2
so: loga((2+x)/x) =2
loga((2+x)/x) =log100 (I'm not even sure where I could go with this one though).

Relevant equations include:

log x +log y = log xy
log x - log y = log x/y
logax=(logcx)/logca

I'd really appreciate any hints you can give me. Thanks.
 
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It looks like you represented the 2 on the right side as a common log of 100, but the left side is log base a, so that isn't very useful in this case. Since log base a ((2+x)/x) = 2, try thinking more in terms of, "a raised to the second power is equal to ((2+x)/x)."
 
I tried to follow this trail of thought, but it didn't seem to take me anywhere:

a^2 =(2+x)/x

xa^2=2+x or alternatively a=root((2+x)/x)

..but I can't see how any of this will get rid of the a, which is ideally what I'd like to do to solve for x.
 
Cmunro said:
I tried to follow this trail of thought, but it didn't seem to take me anywhere:

a^2 =(2+x)/x

xa^2=2+x or alternatively a=root((2+x)/x)

..but I can't see how any of this will get rid of the a, which is ideally what I'd like to do to solve for x.

You don't want to get rid of the a. You want to solve for x in terms of a. Got that? Solve for x, not a.
 
ohhh I see! I've been quite thick really, of course I don't want to get rid of the a.

Ok so: a[tex]^{2}[/tex]=2+x/x
xa[tex]^{2}[/tex]-x=2
x(a[tex]^{2}[/tex]-1) =2
x= 2/(a[tex]^{2}[/tex]-1)

Is this right? If yes, can it be simpler?
 
It looks plenty simple to me.
 
Thanks for your help both of you :)
 

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