Can You Own the Moon or Claim Space Property?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the question of whether individuals or nations can claim ownership of the Moon or other areas in space, and the implications of such claims in terms of legality and practicality. Participants explore philosophical, legal, and speculative aspects of space property ownership, including potential future scenarios involving lunar bases and economic considerations.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Philosophical exploration
  • Legal considerations
  • Speculative reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether ownership claims can be made legally or philosophically, with one noting that a treaty exists prohibiting nations from claiming the Moon.
  • Others argue that while individuals can claim ownership, the acceptance of such claims is uncertain and dependent on legal frameworks that currently do not support individual ownership of extraterrestrial land.
  • A participant mentions a commercial entity selling lunar property, suggesting that such transactions are legally valid, though this is contested by others who point out the lack of legal recognition for such claims.
  • Concerns are raised about the practicality of claiming lunar property, including the necessity for physical presence and protection of the claimed land from governmental control.
  • Some participants speculate on the future use of the Moon as a space base or scientific laboratory, discussing the economic viability of launching satellites from the Moon.
  • There are references to historical mining claims laws as a potential framework for future claims on the Moon, raising questions about the logistics and regulations that would govern such claims.
  • Philosophical reflections are made on the nature of property and value, suggesting that true worth lies within the individual rather than in external claims.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with no clear consensus on the legality or feasibility of claiming ownership of the Moon. Some support the idea of individual claims, while others emphasize the limitations imposed by international treaties and practical challenges.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights various assumptions about legal frameworks, the nature of property rights in space, and the implications of future human activities on the Moon. There are unresolved questions regarding the enforcement of claims and the role of governments in regulating space property.

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To address this question, one first needs to look at the authority and boundaries of the institution(the UN in this case) remanded with governing this issue. Then one needs to look at what constitutes legal property ownership.
It could be agreed that, for example, the UN has potential legal authority with matters concerning the Earth; conditional upon adjudication from the World Court in select matters.
It should be noted that the UN consists of participating member nations, and if you are a citizen of a member nation you are legally bound in the eyes of the UN to abide by their determinations. A citizen is a "national" of a country. So, to suggest that a private citizen of a member country is not bound to issues regarding "national appropriation" is not correct.

But let's look at "boundary authority" Should the UN have "authority" over the immediate space surrounding the earth, including our moon? I would say yes.
This surrounding area is "strategic", meaning that free-for-all occupation and technological deployment can potentially, significantly, alter the socio-political security of Earth as well as create numerous hazards for other "occupants" So, this area must be "governed" and controlled. Due to global potential, the reasonable authority should be remanded with a global governing entity; and the UN is such an entity.

Therefore, individual "ownership" of our moon is a ludicrous and preposterous idea, regardless of how the original/subsequent treaty lanquage was written.
The overiding point is this: As a strategic world asset recognized by the UN, "ownership" of the moon in any form is inherently illegal and void.

A second point is this: A mere "claim" of celestial rights does NOT afford the rights. Just because the "claim" was received and filed by the UN means nothing other than the fact that it was received and filed.
I could submit a claim to the UN for title rights of the galaxy of Andromeda, and it "might" even be received and filed, but DOES NOT actually grant me ANY rights; rather it just grants me recognition of having filed the "claim", nothing more. I repeat... NOTHING MORE.

All property claims must go through a final "approval" process within the governing authority in order to actually issue a title deed. A title deed is required before ownership is recognized and for subdivision to be legal. The governing authority for the moon is the UN, and they have NEVER issued any title deeds for the moon.
 

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