Can You Solve for m and n in x^2+mx+n=0 with Only One Possible Value for x?

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The discussion revolves around solving the quadratic equation x² + mx + n = 0, where m and n are integers, given that the only possible value for x is -3. Participants explore various methods to determine the values of m and n, including the use of the discriminant and coefficient comparison.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using the discriminant, b² - 4ac, to analyze the quadratic equation.
  • Another participant proposes that the equation can be expressed as (x + 3)², leading to the expansion x² + 6x + 9, which implies m = 6 and n = 9.
  • A later reply confirms the values of m and n derived from the expansion and discusses the implications of the discriminant being zero for a quadratic with a single root.
  • Further exploration includes reasoning about the axis of symmetry for the quadratic, leading to the same conclusion about m and n.
  • Participants also discuss writing the quadratic in vertex form to derive the values of m and n.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the values of m and n being 6 and 9, respectively, but the discussion includes various methods and reasoning that may not be universally accepted or verified.

Contextual Notes

Some participants rely on assumptions about the properties of quadratics, such as the relationship between the discriminant and the number of roots, which may not be explicitly stated. There are also multiple approaches to arrive at the same conclusion, indicating a variety of reasoning paths.

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My friend and I love to challenge each other from time to time when we come across a new question in a textbook or online. Here is the question he found. In the equation x^2+mx+n=0, m and n are integers. The only possible value for x is -3. What is the value of m and n?

I am thinking discriminant: b^2 - 4ac, where a = 1, b = m and c = n.

Correct approach?
 
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RTCNTC said:
My friend and I love to challenge each other from time to time when we come across a new question in a textbook or online. Here is the question he found. In the equation x^2+mx+n=0, m and n are integers. The only possible value for x is -3. What is the value of m and n?

I am thinking discriminant: b^2 - 4ac, where a = 1, b = m and c = n.

Correct approach?

What I would do is from the given information, we know:

$$x^2+mx+n=(x+3)^2$$

Expand the RHS, and then equate coefficients to determine $m$ and $n$.

Now, you could use the discriminant...what must its value be? Can you determine another equation with $m$ and $n$ using the given root?
 
How about this solution?

Let x = -3

x +3 = 0

(x+3)^2 = x^2 + 6x + 9

m = 6; n = 9

Correct?
 
RTCNTC said:
How about this solution?

Let x = -3

x +3 = 0

(x+3)^2 = x^2 + 6x + 9

m = 6; n = 9

Correct?

Yep. :D

Let's look at using the discriminant as you initially posted.

If a quadratic has only one root, then its discriminant must be zero, and so we obtain:

$$m^2-4n=0$$

Using the given root $x=-3$, we also have:

$$9-3m+n=0$$

If we multiply this by 4, we get:

$$36-12m+4n=0$$

The first equation (regarding the discriminant) implies $4n=m^2$, and we have:

$$m^2-12m+36=(m-6)^2=0\implies m=6\implies n=9$$

Now, we could also reason that a quadratic having only one root, will have its axis of symmetry at that root. Recall the axis of symmetry for the general quadratic $ax^2+bx+c$ is given by:

$$x=-\frac{b}{2a}$$

So we would have:

$$-\frac{m}{2}=-3\implies m=6$$

And then using either the discriminant, or the value of the quadratic at the root, we can easily find $n=9$.

We could also write the quadratic in vertex form:

$$x^2+mx+n=\left(x^2+mx+\frac{m^2}{4}\right)+n-\frac{m^2}{4}=\left(x+\frac{m}{2}\right)^2+\frac{4n-m^2}{4}$$

We know the vertex must be at $(-3,0)$, and so this gives us:

$$\frac{m}{2}=3$$

$$\frac{4n-m^2}{4}=0$$

And from this we easily find:

$$(m,n)=(6,9)$$
 
Interesting question for sure.
 

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