Can you spot the mistake in this equation?

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The discussion revolves around identifying a mistake in a mathematical equation that leads to the conclusion that 1 equals -1. Participants analyze the steps taken in the equation, particularly focusing on the properties of square roots and squaring negative numbers.

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  • Some participants assert that the square root of 1 can be either 1 or -1, questioning the validity of the equation's steps.
  • Others argue that the square root of (-1)^2 should not be considered equal to -1, emphasizing that it equals 1 instead.
  • A participant highlights that the square root function, when defined as a real-valued function, must yield only the positive value for each input.
  • There is a contention regarding the interpretation of squaring negative numbers and the implications for the square root operation.
  • One participant notes that this argument has been raised multiple times in recent discussions, suggesting a recurring misunderstanding.

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Participants express disagreement on the interpretation of the square root and the validity of the steps leading to the conclusion that 1 equals -1. There is no consensus on the correct interpretation of the mathematical principles involved.

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Limitations include varying definitions of the square root function and the assumptions made about the properties of negative numbers in the context of squaring and square roots.

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Readers interested in mathematical reasoning, particularly in the context of square roots and algebraic identities, may find this discussion relevant.

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Somebody find the mistake here:

[tex] 1=\sqrt{1}=\sqrt{(-1)(-1)}=\sqrt{(-1)^2}=-1 \Rightarrow 1=-1[/tex]​
 
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Square root of 1 is not 1, it is either 1 or -1.
 
Since when is the (square root of -1)-squared equal to -1?

-1 squared is 1.
The root of 1 is 1, not -1.
 
DaveC426913 said:
The root of 1 is 1, not -1.

yes it's -1 because (-1)^2=1 from the definition ;)
 
mathlover1 said:
yes it's -1 because (-1)^2=1 from the definition ;)

So do you or do you not see the flaw?
 
The error is here
[tex] \sqrt{(-1)^2} \neq -1[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{(-1)^2} = |-1|=1[/tex]
 
Well-done Njama, your answer is the correct one.
 
mathlover1 said:
Well-done Njama, your answer is the correct one.

Which is precisely what I said in post 3.
 
Borek said:
Square root of 1 is not 1, it is either 1 or -1.
Not true.
mathlover1 said:
yes it's -1 because (-1)^2=1 from the definition ;)
Not true.
njama said:
The error is here
[tex] \sqrt{(-1)^2} \neq -1[/tex]

[tex]\sqrt{(-1)^2} = |-1|=1[/tex]
True! [tex]\sqrt{x}[/itex], as a real valued <b>function</b>, must have only one value for each x and it is defined as "the positive number y such that [itex]y^2= x[/itex]"<br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="mathlover1" data-source="post: 2761199" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> mathlover1 said: </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Well-done Njama, your answer is the correct one. </div> </div> </blockquote> Then why did you deny it in your post quoted above?[/tex]
 
  • #10
Is it just me, or is this the 3rd time in the last month somebody has posted the very same 1=-1 argument?
 
  • #11
Well, it really belongs in the Riddles section.
 

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