Can You Trust Your Sunglasses for Total UV Protection?

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The discussion revolves around the effectiveness of sunglasses in blocking UVA and UVB radiation, with a focus on whether they provide total UV protection. Participants explore potential home experiments to test sunglasses, the implications of UV exposure, and the role of sunglasses in preventing eye damage versus skin damage.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about home experiments to test the UV-blocking capabilities of sunglasses, suggesting methods like using a black light.
  • Others mention that not all sunglasses block 100% of UV rays and recommend consulting eye care professionals for accurate evaluations.
  • Several participants argue that sunglasses primarily protect against cataracts and eye cancers rather than skin issues like wrinkles.
  • There is a discussion about the potential risks of wearing dark sunglasses that do not effectively block UV light, as they may cause pupil dilation and increase UV exposure to the eyes.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the reliability of manufacturers' claims regarding UV protection, noting that many sources do not provide clear performance figures.
  • One participant mentions the availability of UV meters for testing sunglasses, though their accuracy is uncertain.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that sunglasses serve to protect the eyes from UV damage, but there is disagreement regarding their effectiveness in preventing skin damage and the validity of home testing methods. The discussion remains unresolved on the best way to assess UV protection in sunglasses.

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Limitations include the lack of consensus on effective home testing methods, the variability in manufacturers' claims about UV protection, and the potential for increased eye damage from poorly designed sunglasses.

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Is there an experiment you can do at home to test whether a pair of sunglasses blocks UVA/UVB wavelengths? It says total UV protection but that could mean anything and I don't want wrinkles.
 
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http://www.allaboutvision.com/eye-doctor/

"Not all sunglasses block 100 percent of UV rays. If you're unsure about the level of UV protection your sunglasses provide, take them to your eye doctor or optician for an evaluation. Many eye care professionals have instruments such as spectrophotometers that can measure the amount of visible light and UV radiation your lenses block.
 
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Wolfenden said:
and I don't want wrinkles.
Welcome to the PF.

Sunglasses aren't for preventing wrinkles... :smile:
 
berkeman said:
Sunglasses aren't for preventing wrinkles...

that's the job of a [lotion] sunscreen or wide brimmed hat.
 
alw34 said:
that's the job of a [lotion] sunscreen or wide brimmed hat.
The job of sunglasses is mainly to prevent cataracts and eye cancers, I think. Suncream can't do that and hats are only effective to some degree.
If you happen to have a pair of 'transitions' sunglasses, you could use them as indicators of the presence of UV.
But it's unlikely that you can do any valid experiment without the right equipment and the manufacturers are very shifty about giving any actual figures for performance. It seems that the 'UV400' standard is what's needed and that calls for 'total' blocking of all wavelengths below 400nm (whatever the word "total" means. I did a google search but I really couldn't recommend any particular link because they all seem to avoid putting in any actual figures and they're all from manufacturers. Funnily enough,I did find a source from eBay that seemed to say more than anything else I read.
 
berkeman said:
Welcome to the PF.

Sunglasses aren't for preventing wrinkles... :smile:

They are if they claim to protect you from UVA light, UVB is what gives you sunburn :)
 
sophiecentaur said:
Suncream can't do that and hats are only effective to some degree.
LOL, he was saying to use sunscreen to help prevent wrinkles... :smile:
 
Wolfenden said:
They are if they claim to protect you from UVA light, UVB is what gives you sunburn :)
The point is they would only protect from wrinkles and sunburn in the small area around your eyes. They do not help where they cast no shadow (the rest of your face).

As the centaur says, the eyeglass protection is for different issues.
 
berkeman said:
The point is they would only protect from wrinkles and sunburn in the small area around your eyes. They do not help where they cast no shadow (the rest of your face).

As the centaur says, the eyeglass protection is for different issues.

Exactly! I wear sunscreen all over my face and reapply it every 3-4 hours, but sunscreen would irritate the delicate under-eye area, which is precisely why, among other reasons, I want to wear sunglasses to prevent wrinkles.

There are dermatologists who recommend wearing sunglasses for exactly this reason.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
The job of sunglasses is mainly to prevent cataracts and eye cancers, I think. Suncream can't do that and hats are only effective to some degree.
If you happen to have a pair of 'transitions' sunglasses, you could use them as indicators of the presence of UV.
But it's unlikely that you can do any valid experiment without the right equipment and the manufacturers are very shifty about giving any actual figures for performance. It seems that the 'UV400' standard is what's needed and that calls for 'total' blocking of all wavelengths below 400nm (whatever the word "total" means. I did a google search but I really couldn't recommend any particular link because they all seem to avoid putting in any actual figures and they're all from manufacturers. Funnily enough,I did find a source from eBay that seemed to say more than anything else I read.

I see, thanks.
 
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Wolfenden said:
I see, thanks.
Sorry I can't be more helpful but, even if the blocking is not complete, they are a lot lot better than nothing.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
The job of sunglasses is mainly to prevent cataracts and eye cancers, I think. <snip>

You raise an important issue, and the OP asks a good question. Sunglasses, because they reduce the amount of light entering your eye, result in a dilated pupil as compared to no sunglasses. Thus, dark sunglasses that don't effectively block UV light may actually lead to *increased* eye damage as compared to not wearing them. Same thing with ski goggles- if they darken the scene, your pupils dilate and more UV will enter your eye.

The same principle holds with laser safety- you are safer doing beam alignment, etc. with the room lights on.
 
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Wolfenden said:
Is there an experiment you can do at home to test whether a pair of sunglasses blocks UVA
I imagine you can use a black light to test whether UVA passes through enough to visibly detect the "best" protection of various glasses at least to some degree.
 
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Andy Resnick said:
You raise an important issue, and the OP asks a good question. Sunglasses, because they reduce the amount of light entering your eye, result in a dilated pupil as compared to no sunglasses. Thus, dark sunglasses that don't effectively block UV light may actually lead to *increased* eye damage as compared to not wearing them. Same thing with ski goggles- if they darken the scene, your pupils dilate and more UV will enter your eye.

The same principle holds with laser safety- you are safer doing beam alignment, etc. with the room lights on.

That's correct. I was told that is the reason that I can't buy so-called blue-blocker sunglasses any more. Those were the ones with an amber or orange hue. They were very pleasant to wear, but they did increase dilation and thus eye damage. My suppliers say they can't sell them any more.
 
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You can buy UV meters on eBay quite cheap. Including add on sensors for mobile phones. No idea how good they are.
 

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