Cannon Problem (Projectile motion)

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The problem involves projectile motion, specifically analyzing the jump of an Olympian long-jumper who takes off at a speed of 11 m/s at an angle of 20 degrees above the horizontal. The goal is to determine how far the jumper travels horizontally during the jump.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to resolve the initial velocity into its horizontal and vertical components. There are questions about calculating the vertical velocity and the time of flight, with some confusion regarding the use of acceleration due to gravity.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on using the vertical velocity being zero at the peak of the jump to find the time of flight. Others have suggested using specific equations related to constant acceleration to derive necessary values. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being explored, particularly regarding the effects of initial height and the assumptions made about mass.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the potential oversight regarding the height from which the jumper is launched, which could affect the calculations. Participants are also navigating the implications of gravitational acceleration in their reasoning.

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Homework Statement


An Olympian in the long-jump goes into the jump with a speed of 11 m/s at an angle of 20 (degrees) above the horizontal. How far does the Olympian jump?


Homework Equations


Constant Acceleration Equations
V=Vo + at


The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to set up a X/Y Chart to solve for V, Vo, Displacement in X and Y, Acceleration, and Time. However. I'm confused on how to solve for V in the Y direction. I know that Vo and V in the X direction are equal, but how about in the Y direction? How do you solve for that? And how do you solve acceleration in the Y direction? Thanks.
 
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In the y (vertical direction) there is an accelration downwards of g = 9.81m/s^2
You can also use the fact that the vertical velocity is zero at the top of the jumpand this is halfway through the total time
 
But isn't F=mg? How can you assume that the mass is 1? I'm studying for my final exam so I kind of forgot all of this. : (
 
Alright, your first step in this problem should be to resolve the velocity into its respective x and y components. Do that first and go from there.

Edit: mgb_phys never assumed the mass of jumper was 1 kg. Assuming the jumper is on earth, the acceleration in the y component is 9.81 m/s^2. Use the fact that the velocity in the y component is zero halfway through the jump to calculate the time in the air.
 
How do you solve for V in the y direction though? I know Vo and V in X are the same...I found out Vo in Y..I can't figure out V in Y though.
 
Show some of your work so we can see what you're doing.

Assuming you correctly calculated the initial vertical velocity of the jumper, use the formula V_f = V_i + at.
 
But I can't solve for T yet. How should I solve for T? This is where I get stuck.
 
You've already been told twice. Use the fact that the velocity in the y component is zero half way through the jump to calculate the time.
 
So I use T/2 and V=0 and use a constant acceleration equation? Thanks for helping me btw
 
  • #10
Work out the vertical component of the velocity
you have v = vo + at
Consider just the upward half of the curve, you know the initial and final velocity and the 'a' so t should be easy - remember the time to the top is half the total time.
 
  • #11
Thanks for helping me. That last part did the trick : )
 
  • #12
You have the launch velocity (Vlaunch = 11 m/s) and the launch trajectory (20 degrees above horizontal). Now you need to derive the following:

Vertical velocity component (Vvert, in m/s):

Vvert = Vlaunch x SIN(20 degrees)

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Vertical rise time (Vrt, in seconds):

Vrt = Vvert / (9.8 m/s^2)

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Vertical height achieved (Vh, in meters):

Vh = ½ (9.8 m/s^2) time^2

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Horizontal velocity component (Vhor, in m/s):

Vhor = Vlaunch x COS(20 degrees)

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Horizontal distance = Vhor x 2Vrt

Technically speaking, you’re scenario is missing one initial factor; that being the height in which the javelin is actually being released from, as that adds to the rise and fall time thereby yielding just slightly greater distance in both the horizontal and vertical. However, this aspect is simply overlooked in many cases for such low initial launch heights (the javelin potentially being released from a height of only 4.5 to 6 feet). The fact that you weren’t given the javelin’s release height means it’s likely not an issue, but it’s good to realize it actually is a consideration in yielding the greatest calculated accuracy.
 
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