Can't crystal of simple lattice be antiferromagnetic?

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The discussion centers on whether a crystal with a simple lattice, defined as having primitive cells with only one atom, can exhibit antiferromagnetism. Participants explore the implications of lattice structure on magnetic properties, particularly in relation to symmetry operations and definitions within magnetic space groups.

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  • One participant questions if a simple lattice can be antiferromagnetic, suggesting that antiparallelism must occur within each primitive cell.
  • Another participant argues against this view, stating that the concept of magnetic space groups allows for different interpretations of symmetry operations, which could support antiferromagnetism in simple lattices.
  • Discussion includes references to BCC Chromium, with some participants asserting that BCC is not a simple cubic lattice due to its structure involving two interpenetrating simple cubic lattices.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the definition of primitive cells and their relation to the Bravais lattice, with some participants emphasizing that a non-primitive cubic unit cell is used for clarity in symmetry representation.
  • There is a mention of the distinction between primitive and non-primitive unit cells in the context of BCC and FCC lattices, with a focus on how this affects the understanding of symmetry.

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Participants express differing views on the relationship between lattice structure and antiferromagnetism, with no consensus reached on whether a simple lattice can exhibit antiferromagnetic properties. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of magnetic space groups and the definitions of primitive versus non-primitive lattices.

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Participants highlight the dependence on definitions of symmetry operations and the types of lattices being discussed, indicating that assumptions about lattice structure may influence interpretations of magnetic properties.

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Is it correct that a crystall of simple lattice (lattice with primitive cells each having only one atom) cannot be antiferromagnetic? In other words, the antiparallelism must occur between atoms within each primitive cell.

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I don't think so, if not, the whole buzz about magnetic space groups would be useless. But this may also be a matter of pure definition: I.e., you may insist in that a translation which maps an atom with spin up onto an atom with spin down is not a true symmetry operation of the ordinary space group. In fact, you have to combine a unitary translation with a time inversion to convert spin up into spin down, so this is not an element of an ordinary space group. Hence if you are only admitting unitary operators as symmetry elements, as in ordinary space groups, then you have to consider a larger basis, while if you use magnetic space groups, which also include non-unitary group elements, then you can use a smaller basis with atoms with different spins being in different unit cells.
 
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't BCC not considered in this scenario? Its not a simple (primitive) cubic lattice...BCC is, by definition, two interpenetrating simple cubic lattices. I believe the original question dealt with the primitive cubic lattice (one atom per unit cell), in which case DrDu gave the same answer I would give.
 
HeavyMetal said:
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't BCC not considered in this scenario? Its not a simple (primitive) cubic lattice...BCC is, by definition, two interpenetrating simple cubic lattices. I believe the original question dealt with the primitive cubic lattice (one atom per unit cell), in which case DrDu gave the same answer I would give.

The BCC lattice is a Bravais lattice. Hence in Chromium, there is only one atom per primitive unit cell. So I am with M Quack, here.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cubic_cI_and_primitive_cell.png
 
Just to clarify: are you saying that its Bravais lattice is BCC with a two-atom basis, but that there still exists a [rhombohedron] primitive cell which contains only one atom?
 
I am saying that the cubic cell which contains two atoms is not primitive.
You can generate a chromium crystal as either a primitive cubic lattice spanned by translation of the non-primitive two-atom basis, or as a bcc lattice obtained by translating the primitive one-atom basis.
 
Same reply as in another thread:
The reason the non-primitive cubic unit cell is used in BCC and FCC is that this makes the (cubic) symmetry of the system totally obvious. This is not the case for the primitive unit cells - the symmetry is of course the same, but it is not quite as easy to see.
 

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