Can't find correct expression for discharging RL circuit

In summary, the author is trying to find an expression for the total charge that passes through the resistor in one time constant. They start by finding the limits of the function and then identify the term that is associated with t=0.
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Rijad Hadzic
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Homework Statement


After a switch is left for a for many time constants, it is switched to b. find an expression for the total charge that passes through the resistor in one time constant

Homework Equations


dq/dt = I(t)
I(t) = (ε/R)(e^(-tR/l))

The Attempt at a Solution


so dq = I(t) dt
I know the constant is tau but I can't find that so I am just going to call it v, v = l/R

Q = ∫(ε/R)(e^(-t/v)) dt
Q = (ε/R) ∫(e^(-t/v)) dt

let u = -t/v let du = -1/v dt

-du*V = dt

∫(e^(-t/v)) = -v ∫e^u du

∫e^u = e^u

e^u = e^(-t/v) from t to 0

∫(e^(-t/v)) = ε/r * [ -v * (e^(-t/v) - e) ] = Q(t)

its asking for total charge at one time constant (v)

ε/r * [ -v * (e^(-v/v) - e) ] = Q(v)

ε/r * [ -v * (e^(-1) - e) ] = Q(v)

((εv)/(r)) * [ -(1/e) + e ] = Q(v)

but my book is telling me the answer is

((εv)/(r)) * [ (e-1) / e ] = Q(v)
what am I doing wrong?
 
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Rijad Hadzic said:
ε/r * [ -v * (e^(-1) - e) ] = Q(t)

((εv)/(r)) * [ (1/e) - e ] = Q(v)

but my book is telling me the answer is

((εv)/(r)) * [ (e-1) / e ] = Q(v)

Did you distribute the negative sign from the first line of this post to the second line?
 
  • #3
Eclair_de_XII said:
Did you distribute the negative sign from the first line of this post to the second line?

sorry my apologize! I forgot to write that

fixing it up:

ε/r * [ -v * (e^(-1) - e) ] = Q(v)

((εv)/(r)) * [ -(1/e) + e ] = Q(v)

I still don't understand how they got to

((εv)/(r)) * [ (e-1) / e ] = Q(v)

though.

I will edit my OP with the correction that you pointed out
 
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Rijad Hadzic said:
After a switch is left for a for many time constants, it is switched to b. find an expression for the total charge that passes through the resistor in one time constant
What are a and b? Post the circuit diagram.
 
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When you evaluate the limits, what term is associated with t=0?
 
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robphy said:
When you evaluate the limits, what term is associated with t=0?

Do you mean when I take the integral?

so from

"e^u = e^(-t/v) from t to 0"

you get e^(-t/v) - e^0 = e^(-t/v) - 1

so wait this isn't what I wrote in my OP :S damnit
 
  • #8
robphy said:
When you evaluate the limits, what term is associated with t=0?

Thanks so much. I'm not sure why I'm making such simple mistakes but I feel like accelerating off a cliff rn.
 

1. What is an RL circuit?

An RL circuit is an electrical circuit consisting of a resistor (R) and an inductor (L) connected in series. It is used to control the flow of electric current and can be found in various electronic devices such as radios, televisions, and computers.

2. Why is it difficult to find the correct expression for discharging an RL circuit?

Discharging an RL circuit involves the flow of current through both the resistor and the inductor, which are affected by different factors such as resistance, inductance, and time. This complexity makes it challenging to find a single, definitive expression for the discharging process.

3. What factors affect the discharging process in an RL circuit?

The discharging process in an RL circuit is affected by the initial charge on the inductor, the resistance of the circuit, and the inductance of the inductor. Additionally, external factors such as temperature and external magnetic fields can also impact the discharging process.

4. How can the correct expression for discharging an RL circuit be determined?

The correct expression for discharging an RL circuit can be determined by using Kirchhoff's circuit laws and the equations for voltage and current in an RL circuit. By solving these equations simultaneously, the expression for the discharging process can be obtained.

5. What is the importance of finding the correct expression for discharging an RL circuit?

Knowing the expression for the discharging process in an RL circuit is crucial for understanding and analyzing the behavior of the circuit. It can also help in designing and optimizing the circuit for specific applications, such as in power supplies or electronic filters.

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