Can't find the home page for specific journal (non-trivial case)

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the difficulty of locating the home page for a specific academic paper titled «Définition covariante des équilibres thermodynamiques» by J. M. Souriau, published in 1966 in Supp. Nuovo Cimento. Participants explore the accessibility of older academic papers and the resources available for finding them, including the roles of university and public librarians.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration at not being able to find the paper online, noting its age and expecting it to be open-access.
  • Another participant suggests that older articles often require special subscriptions rather than being readily available through regular library access.
  • A suggestion is made that university librarians are well-equipped to assist in locating such papers.
  • A participant acknowledges a misunderstanding regarding the availability of older papers and expresses gratitude for the assistance offered.
  • Another participant mentions that public libraries in the US may also have helpful librarians who can assist in searching for academic papers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the availability of the paper, with some believing it is not available electronically while others suggest it may require special access. The discussion reflects differing experiences regarding access to older academic articles.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the accessibility of older papers and the roles of different types of libraries, which may vary by location and institution.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for researchers, students, or anyone seeking assistance in locating older academic papers, as well as those interested in the accessibility of academic resources.

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For the first time in my lime I am not able to find home page for well-known and respected western periodical. I am looking for the paper titled «Définition covariante des équilibres thermodynamiques» by J. M. Souriau published in Supp. Nuovo Cimento, 1, I , 4 (1966) pp. 203-216 (given the fact the paper is a few decades old, I expect it to be open-accessed).

The «Nuovo cimento» journal as well as all its flavours have been published by the «Italian physical society» until the journals became an integral part of the «European physical journal». So all the journals are available on its website, except for the one I need. I find it hard to believe that the IPS thoroughly scanned everything they had published for the last one and a half of century, but neglected this one (same is true for the website of Springer that, as far as I understand, owns rights to distribute papers from all «Nuovo cimento» flavours).

Googling for the paper title or author name brought many interesting results, except for the link to the paper text...

So I am at complete loss here and would appreciate your help.
 
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From what I can find, it is indeed not available in electronic form.

SVN said:
(given the fact the paper is a few decades old, I expect it to be open-accessed).
It is usually the inverse. Most old articles are not available with regular library subscriptions, but require special subscriptions.
 
If you are at a university, sounds like a case for a university librarian (they get paid to help people find papers like these).
 
@DrClaude

It is usually the inverse. Most old articles are not available with regular library subscriptions, but require special subscriptions.
You are right. I should have used the verb «hope» in stead of «expect» (I was under pleasant impression of my yesterday's discovery that they opened access to «Annales de l'I.H.P. Physique théorique»; hoped the Italians followed the French).

Thank you very much for checking it for me. I thought I was missing something obvious.

@Ygggdrasil

I like your idea, it would be a perfect solution, but, unfortunately, I am not not at university these days.
 
Ygggdrasil said:
...sounds like a case for a university librarian...

SVN said:
I like your idea, it would be a perfect solution, but, unfortunately, I am not not at university these days.
Here in the US, Public libraries (usually funded by the city or the next larger political division) generally have very helpful librarians, they actually like to search for such things. Perhaps you can find something like that where you are.

Good Luck!
Tom
 

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