Can't take physics my first year

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The discussion centers around strategies for an undergraduate student who cannot take introductory physics until their second year. Participants explore ways to stay engaged with physics and the physics department, including attending seminars and focusing on mathematics as a preparatory step.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests attending department colloquia and seminars as a way to remain engaged with physics.
  • Another participant emphasizes the importance of taking math classes to stay ahead and develop good study habits.
  • There is a question about the reason for the delay in taking introductory physics, leading to a clarification about placement in math classes.
  • A participant notes that calculus is commonly a prerequisite for introductory physics and reassures that the calculus component will be manageable once the student begins the course.
  • Advice is given regarding problem-solving techniques in physics, highlighting the importance of algebraic manipulation over numerical solutions at the introductory level.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the importance of mathematics as foundational for physics and the value of attending seminars. However, there is no consensus on the best approach to maintaining engagement with physics during the delay.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the student's specific placement in math courses and the implications this has for their readiness to start physics. The discussion does not resolve how best to balance engagement with physics while waiting to take the introductory course.

Who May Find This Useful

Undergraduate students considering graduate school in physics or related fields, particularly those facing delays in their physics coursework.

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As an undergraduate highly considering graduate school, what are some ways I can still remain engaged with physics and with my institution's physics department despite my delayed start (I cannot take intro physics until my second year)? I was thinking of regularly attending department colloquia and seminars--is this okay for an undergrad to do? Anyway, I just don't want to fall behind or become rusty in physics. All suggestions welcome, thank you so much for reading!
 
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The most important thing you can do is take math classes so that you will be ahead. Start developing good study habits.
Colloquia and seminars are open to everyone.
 
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scribkibs said:
(I cannot take intro physics until my second year)
Why not?
 
jtbell said:
Why not?
I placed into the second highest math class (precalc), and I needed to place into calc in order to start intro physics. I will be able to complete the calc series before I begin my second year, though.
 
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scribkibs said:
I placed into the second highest math class (precalc), and I needed to place into calc in order to start intro physics.
Yep, Calc I is commonly a co- or pre-requisite for first semester intro physics. On the bright side, when you finally start intro physics, the calculus part should be pretty easy for you. At the schools I've studied or taught at, first-year intro physics uses calculus mainly to simplify things conceptually, and sticks to the simpler examples, from a problem-solving point of view. You probably won't deal with more than simple polynomials, trig and exponential functions.

For problem-solving at that level, it's more important to be good at algebraic manipulation. Aim to solve problems by combining the relevant equations symbolically, isolating the quantity/variable you want, and plugging in the numbers only at the very end. Don't fall into "serial numeric solutions", solving one equation numerically, then plugging the result into the next equation.

In higher-level courses, many or most of your problems will ask you to derive an equation, not calculate a number. You need to get practice in doing that.
 
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