Capacitance Circuit Homework: Initial Conditions

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The discussion focuses on analyzing the potential differences across capacitors C1, C2, C3, and C4 in a circuit with switches S1 and S2. Initially, with S1 closed and S2 open, the potential difference across each capacitor is 80V. After closing S2, C1 shares its charge with C4, resulting in a potential difference of 40V across both C1 and C4, while C2 and C3 maintain 80V. When both switches are closed, the new potential differences are V2 = V3 = 96V and V1,4 = V4 = 48V. The discussion emphasizes the importance of capacitance values and conservation of charge in determining the potential differences.

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Homework Statement



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Initial Conditions
(a)
Switch S2 kept open, switch S1 closed until C1, C2 and C3 are fully charged. What is the potential difference across each capacitor? Now Switch S2 is closed. What is the new potential difference across each capacitor?

(b) Switches S1 and S2 are both closed. What is the p.d. across each capacitor?

The Attempt at a Solution



(a)
Before S2 is closed, p.d. across all 3 capacitors are the same:

V1 = V2 = V3 = 80V
V4 = 0V

After S2 is closed, capacitors 2 and 3 do not affect the circuit at all hence they retain the p.d. of 80V.

C1 distributes half of its charge to C4.

V2 = V3 = 80V

C1 = C4 = 40V(b)

C1 and C4 are in parallel, so C1,4 = 2C

thus it is C1,4, C2 and C3 in series. Hence p.d. across each is:

V2 = V3 = 96V
V1,4 = V1 = V4 = 48V
 
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Looks correct. You could add the formula you used at (b).
 
mfb said:
Looks correct. You could add the formula you used at (b).

Thanks!
 
Do all capacitors have the same capacitance?

If yes, then your answer is correct. If not, you must use the conservation of charge to calculate the potential difference for each capacitor.

J.
 
By the way, this thread should be in the Introductory Physics section.

unscientific said:

Homework Statement



5kivma.png


Initial Conditions
(a)
Switch S2 kept open, switch S1 closed until C1, C2 and C3 are fully charged. What is the potential difference across each capacitor? Now Switch S2 is closed. What is the new potential difference across each capacitor?

(b) Switches S1 and S2 are both closed. What is the p.d. across each capacitor?

The Attempt at a Solution



(a)
Before S2 is closed, p.d. across all 3 capacitors are the same:

V1 = V2 = V3 = 80V
V4 = 0V

After S2 is closed, capacitors 2 and 3 do not affect the circuit at all hence they retain the p.d. of 80V.

C1 distributes half of its charge to C4.

V2 = V3 = 80V

C1 = C4 = 40V

(b)

C1 and C4 are in parallel, so C1,4 = 2C

thus it is C1,4, C2 and C3 in series. Hence p.d. across each is:

V2 = V3 = 96V
V1,4 = V1 = V4 = 48V
I'm assuming that initially, before either switch is closed all the capacitors are discharged.

Then S1 is closed & S2 is open, with C1, C2 and C3 becoming fully charged.
At this point, each of the three capacitors is charged equally. If they all have the same capacitance, then they will each have the same p.d., as in your analysis.​
Then for part (a), S1 is opened followed by S2 being closed.
If capacitors, C1 & C4, have the same capacitance, then they will be charged equally.

If not, then you can use the fact that they will have the same p.d. to find the charge on each, keeping in mind to employ conservation of charge.​

For part (b): (Your answer is incorrect even if all the capacitances are equal.)

What is the equivalent capacitance of the 4 capacitors?
 
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Moved to Intro Physics.
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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