Capacitance in concentric shells

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The problem involves calculating the total capacitance of a system consisting of four concentric spherical metal shells with specified radii. The middle two shells are connected by a wire, and the original poster is tasked with explaining their method clearly.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to apply Gauss's law to find the electric field between the shells and is uncertain about how to calculate the potential difference. Some participants suggest using the charge on the inner sphere and integrating the electric field to find the potential difference, while others question the correctness of the electric field expressions provided by the original poster.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the electric field and potential difference. Some guidance has been offered regarding the need to focus on the regions between the spheres and the relationship between electric field and potential difference, but there is no consensus on the correct approach yet.

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Participants are navigating assumptions about the charge distribution on the shells and the application of relevant equations, indicating a need for clarity on these foundational concepts.

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Homework Statement



Consider four concentric spherical metal
shells of radii r, 2r, 3r, and 4r. The middle
two shells are connected by wire, as shown.
What is the total capacitance of the system?
In your solution, clearly explain your method.

Homework Equations



u= 1/2cv^2

The Attempt at a Solution


So my teacher told us to assume we can hook it up to a battery(voltage) and that the two inner shells have the same charge and to evaluate the potential inner to outer, but I have no idea how to do this.
 
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There's a number of details you'll have to figure out for yourself, but here's generally how to approach the problem. Assume there is a charge +Q on the inner sphere. Use Gauss's law to calculate the electric field between the spheres. You'll have to figure out what the charge of the other spheres as well. Once you know the electric field, you can integrate it to calculate the potential difference between the spheres.
 
So when I do that I get

E(r)= Q/4(pi)(R)2Epilsonknot


E(2r)=Q/4(pi)(2R)2Epilsonknot


E(3r)=Q/4(pi)(3R)2Epilsonknot

E(4r)=Q/4(pi)(4R)2Epilsonknot


Then I use V=Ed so I integrate this?

What am I integrating though, the difference between the electric fields or the distance?
I am stuck beyond this point and are my electric fields right?
 
I think you need to go back and review how the electric field and potential difference are related (beyond just plucking formulas out of the book) and then reread my previous post.

Your electric fields are not correct. You want the electric field for the regions between the spheres. Also, you can't use V=Ed here.
 

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