Capacitance of three concentric shells

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The discussion revolves around calculating the capacitance of a system involving three concentric shells, focusing on the potential difference between the outermost and innermost shells. The subject area includes electrostatics and capacitance principles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate capacitance by integrating the electric field to find the potential difference. Some participants affirm this approach while others suggest that the middle shell does not affect the capacitance calculation. There is also mention of a more complex scenario involving a thick concentric shell.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing affirmations of the original approach and exploring alternative scenarios. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of reasoning are being examined regarding the role of the middle shell and potential calculations.

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Participants are discussing the implications of the middle shell being an equipotential surface and the potential simplifications in calculating capacitance. There may be constraints related to the assumptions made about the system's configuration.

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Homework Statement
A friend of mine sent me this problem about finding the capacitance.
We have three concentric shells of radius a, b, c. And we've to find the capacitance between x and y.

I need help.

Thank you
Relevant Equations
C=Q/V
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I want to calculate the capacitance of this system between the points x&y.
So suppose I give a charge Q to the outermost shell and -Q to the innermost shell. To find the capacitance C, I try to find the potential V between the outermost shell and innermost shell .
To find V ,I integrate the electric field and find it out to be V=kq[1/a -1/c] where k=1/(4 *pi*epsilon). Then I can find C =Q/V.
Is this approach correct.
 
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This approach is correct. You should get the capacitance between the outer and inner shells the usual way as if the middle shell were not there. The middle shell is affecting nothing because it is an equipotential surface at the potential that would be there if there were vacuum between the shells.

A slightly more interesting problem might be to find the capacitance if a thick concentric shell were placed in between having wall thickness, say ##d=\frac{1}{2}(c-a)## with equal vacuum gaps between conductors.
 
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kuruman said:
This approach is correct. You should get the capacitance between the outer and inner shells the usual way as if the middle shell were not there. The middle shell is affecting nothing because it is an equipotential surface at the potential that would be there if there were vacuum between the shells.

A slightly more interesting problem might be to find the capacitance if a thick concentric shell were placed in between having wall thickness, say ##d=\frac{1}{2}(c-a)## with equal vacuum gaps between conductors.
Thank you. I’ll try your question :)
 
You don't need to do any integration. Just write down the potential at radius a due to the two shells. You know that the potential due to the outer shell there is the same as it is at radius c.
 
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