Cartesian scalar equation of plane

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The discussion revolves around the Cartesian scalar equation of a plane, specifically the forms and interpretations of the equation Ax + By + Cz = D and its relation to vector equations. Participants seek clarification on the definitions and distinctions between scalar and vector representations of planes in three-dimensional space.

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  • One participant seeks confirmation that the Cartesian scalar equation of a plane refers to the equation Ax + By + Cz = D, expressing confusion over the terminology.
  • Another participant affirms that the equation is indeed a scalar equation for a plane and provides a link for further reference.
  • A participant clarifies that the expression ax + by + cz + d = 0 is the general scalar Cartesian expression for a plane and discusses its relation to the normal vector of the plane.
  • There is mention of the Cartesian form involving coordinates (x, y, z) and the equation Ax + By + Cz = D.
  • One participant distinguishes Cartesian coordinates (x, y, z) from other coordinate systems like spherical coordinates (r, φ, θ).
  • A participant poses a question about the correct form to write the Cartesian equation of a plane, presenting two options involving the dot product and the scalar equation.
  • Another participant reiterates that both forms presented in the question are Cartesian, emphasizing that Cartesian refers to the coordinate system rather than the vectors or planes themselves.
  • Clarifications are made regarding the correct representation of the equations, particularly the placement of the constant d and the requirement for the equation to equal zero in certain contexts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the definitions of the Cartesian scalar equation of a plane and its forms, but there are nuances regarding the representation and interpretation of these equations that remain contested.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the correct form of the equations and the implications of including or excluding certain constants, indicating that the discussion may depend on specific definitions and contexts.

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Just wanted to confirm. Cartesian scalar equation of plane refers to equation of plane right?
As in Ax+By+Cz=D. which i think is the vector equation of a plane. I'm getting confused and need clarification
thank you

edit= ok sorry.. i think i got it figured out =p scalar is there because.. equation of plane is a dot product. right?
 
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The expression

ax+by+cz+d=0 refers to a plane and is the general scalar Cartesion expression.

(Aside I wonder if the other expression you were referring to is the direction cosine version

lx+my+nz+p=0.)

This in itself is not a vector expression either, but it does lead to the identification of a unique vector, normal to the plane.

This vector, n = (a,b,c)

The vector expression for a plane is given by

n.(r - {r_0})

edit should read

n.(r - {r_0})=0

n intersects the plane at the point {r_0} = ({x_0},{y_0},{z_0})

r is the position vector r = (x,y,z)


ax+by+cz
This part of the equation defines a series of parallel planes all normal to the vector n
d
selects the particular plane of interest
 
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and cartesian form would be (x,y,z).(#,#,#)=# or Ax+By+Cz=D
 
Cartesian refers to rectangular coordinates x,y,z.
As opposed to some other coordinate system eg r,\phi,\theta
 
erm.. thah means.. if they were to ask cartesian form of equation of plane should i write
a) (x,y,z).(A,B,C)=D aka r.(A,B,C,)=D
b) Ax+By+Cz=D
 
ax+by+cz+d=0 refers to a plane and is the general scalar Cartesion expression.

I've said it once.

You can put the d on the other side of the equation if you like, so long as you are careful to get the signs right.


With regards to your last post


Both (a) and (b) are cartesian since n and r are cartesian vectors.

Cartesian refers to the coordinate system, not the vectors or the planes themselves.


(b) I think (b) is the form you are looking for.

(a) is not quite correct - the expression should not contain d - this is already included in {r_0} - your expression should equal zero, not =D.

Sorry I missed the =0 from the vector expression earlier I have amended that post.
 
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thank you so much.. it's much clearer now xD
 
Glad to help.
 

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