Caught Staring to Etiquette for Opposite Sex Interactions

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Staring at attractive individuals is a common behavior, but reactions can vary based on mutual interest and confidence levels. When caught staring, maintaining eye contact can signal confidence, but looking away first may suggest disinterest. Responses to staring can be perceived as flattering or creepy, depending on the attractiveness of the person staring and the context of the interaction. Engaging in casual conversation after making eye contact is often recommended to alleviate awkwardness. Ultimately, confidence and a genuine approach are key to navigating these situations successfully.
  • #51
Huckleberry said:
There's been a few times I was hanging out with a woman and didn't really think anything of it and then I find out that she's been considering it a date the entire time. That's always a bit embarrassing. Are you sure the woman you're hanging out with isn't interested in you? Maybe she wants your attention and is turning down these guys because she is with you.

Ah, great observation, Huck! That's a definite possibility.

But that raises that difficult question, is it safe to venture out of the Friend Zone? We had a thread on that recently.
 
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  • #52
50th post discussing about being caught staring at a beautiful lady.

edit: I got distracted by other things .. and it turned out to be the 52nd...
 
  • #53
Huckleberry said:
Are you sure the woman you're hanging out with isn't interested in you? Maybe she wants your attention and is turning down these guys because she is with you.
I hadn't thought of it but, now that Huck points it out...

This:
she later complained to me that none of the cute guys in the bar were interested in her.
could very well be her attempt to not beat you over your thick, dense head with a bat.
 
  • #54
TheStatutoryApe said:
Crap. The number of attractive women I have been friends with that have no clue when a guy is hitting on them is absolutely astounding. I was out at a bar with one one night and she had at least two different guys that I saw clamoring for her attention and she later complained to me that none of the cute guys in the bar were interested in her. :rolleyes:
Well, I think both sexes are guilty of being oblivious to the attentions of the opposite sex, so I do agree on this. That's of course a different situation than shooting down guys who actually just ask them out instead of hoping they'll notice they're noticing them. :wink:

And then there are the women who have really high standards and do not count it if a guy below those standards tries hitting on them or asking them out. And the women who play coy and pretend to not be interested. ect ect
I don't think that's 9 out of 10 though. I don't even think that's 1 out of 10. But, yeah, of course there are those with overly high standards. Again, something both sexes are guilty of.

I do not trust any half way attractive woman who tells me that she can't get a date. Its crap.
If she's waiting for the guy to ask, and not picking up on the hints, it's not that surprising. As much as I don't think women should sit around waiting for men to do the asking, a lot of them still do. So, a guy can be flirting outrageously, but if he doesn't flat out ask her out, she may just assume the flirting doesn't mean anything. And, really, if all the guys flirt with her, she may not even realize it's flirting since it may seem like just plain normal playful behavior.

I'm not saying you're going to get a girlfriend or relationship out of the deal, but I think most of the time, if a guy asks a woman out on a date, he will at least get one date out of it.
 
  • #55
DaveC426913 said:
I hadn't thought of it but, now that Huck points it out...

This:
could very well be her attempt to not beat you over your thick, dense head with a bat.

:smile: Put that way, yeah, that sure does sound like a good possibility.
 
  • #56
lisab said:
Ah, great observation, Huck! That's a definite possibility.

But that raises that difficult question, is it safe to venture out of the Friend Zone? We had a thread on that recently.
My answer is simple. If there is a mutual attraction then go for it in full swing. If not then either ignore it or have a talk about it. Don't play it cool.

The FZ is only bad if you're the one feeling the attraction and can't let it go. I'm horrible at relationships and don't care much for them so that hasn't been a problem for me since high school. From my experience women are cool with the friend zone. I think it's guys that are usually retentive about it.

edit- this is assuming that the relationship isn't based on lies in the first place. If she is led to believe one thing and discovers the truth to be another then she will ofcourse be very hurt. What really confuses me is that she'll often keep trying to make it real. I guess this shouldn't surprise me considering how many guys doggedly pursue women who obviously aren't interested in them. I've been guilty of that more than once.
 
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  • #57
I think it's ok to stare, and then smile or nod and go on with your day.

I guess.

I've tried it and I get the feeling with some girls that they're like "eew gross who is that ugly freak", which just turns me off anyways. If you're going to base me entirely by my external appearance you can bleep the bleeping bleep.

Then there are the really cute chicks that smile back at you and I find them even prettier because I feel like they have a heart and soul. Which is what I'm after anyways.Brb paying sexual harassment suits for staring at beautiful selfish women for 0.5 ms.
 
  • #58
TheStatutoryApe said:
I do not trust any half way attractive woman who tells me that she can't get a date. Its crap.
This may be a sexist viewpoint, but I'll stand by it:

Women cannot afford to date just anyone. When they say they can't get a date, they mean they can't get one that's acceptable. I'm not talking about standards of attractiveness, I'm talking about safety and security of the situation. While many women are quite capable of handling themselves if need be, the majority would rather crawl across hot coals than to be in a situation where they must handle themselves.
 
  • #59
DaveC426913 said:
I hadn't thought of it but, now that Huck points it out...

This:
could very well be her attempt to not beat you over your thick, dense head with a bat.

I figured this interpretation of events would come up and considering that she asked me recently why we never hooked up it may be the case.

Just in case any of you ladies out there were wondering, and I find that many seem to have an odd idea of showing a guy they are interested, going to a bar with a guy and immediately wandering off to flirt around and talk with other guys is not a very successful means of showing a guy that you are interested. Complaining afterward that none of those cute guys seemed interested in you is probably a bad idea too. Just so you know. ;-)

Moonie said:
Well, I think both sexes are guilty of being oblivious to the attentions of the opposite sex, so I do agree on this. That's of course a different situation than shooting down guys who actually just ask them out instead of hoping they'll notice they're noticing them.
Generally it is nice to have some sort of confirmation from the lady that she is interested. Many seem to like to play aloof and uninterested and think that they are sending out 'come chase me' vibes or something. Similar to the situation I described with my friend I have been in bars where I was talking with a woman and then she suddenly disappeared to go flirt with some other guy. Is that supposed to get me interested? While perhaps many males are of the sort I personally am not a dog in heat that is going to follow you around and posture and growl at other males to get your attention thanks.

Moonie said:
I don't think that's 9 out of 10 though. I don't even think that's 1 out of 10. But, yeah, of course there are those with overly high standards. Again, something both sexes are guilty of.
One out of ten saying yes is probably better than my average. Of course I didn't have to ask out most of the women I have dated. I'm trying to think and at the moment I can only remember three women I ever asked out on a date that said yes. The rest of the women I have dated it just sort of happened or they came after me. I found that making friends and going from their tends to work out a lot better that asking random women out on dates and that if you have a friend that you like and nothing is sparking its highly unlikely that she will say yes if you ask her out or that it will go any where if she does say yes.
 
  • #60
TheStatutoryApe said:
Just in case any of you ladies out there were wondering, and I find that many seem to have an odd idea of showing a guy they are interested, going to a bar with a guy and immediately wandering off to flirt around and talk with other guys is not a very successful means of showing a guy that you are interested.
Women do not want to show guys they are interested. They want the guy to be interested in them independently.

What woman will want a guy that only likes her once he concludes there's some low-hanging fruit to be picked?
 
  • #61
DaveC426913 said:
Women do not want to show guys they are interested. They want the guy to be interested in them independently.

What woman will want a guy that only likes her once he concludes there's some low-hanging fruit to be picked?

I think a guy going out with a lady to the bar is generally a pretty good sign they are interested. Does it really require that the male give some further sign by being put in a situation where they must chase off other male contenders to get a lady's attention?
 
  • #62
TheStatutoryApe said:
I figured this interpretation of events would come up and considering that she asked me recently why we never hooked up it may be the case.

Just in case any of you ladies out there were wondering, and I find that many seem to have an odd idea of showing a guy they are interested, going to a bar with a guy and immediately wandering off to flirt around and talk with other guys is not a very successful means of showing a guy that you are interested. Complaining afterward that none of those cute guys seemed interested in you is probably a bad idea too. Just so you know. ;-)

A lot of attractive women are used to getting this kind of attention from men. It confuses them when men don't react that way. That's probably why she was interested in you. There's no guarantee that if you showed any interest that she would remain interested. A need for approval isn't attractive to men or women. The stereotypical attractive woman has her own issues with self-image that most guys don't understand. I find that it's too much effort to keep them off-balance enough to keep their interest. It's not real anyway because the interest is really about themselves. Crossing the friend zone with her would probably end badly. Who knows? It might even benefit her if you don't get caught up in the mess of the game when it comes crashing down all around her.

edit- she's playing it cool. It's another way of saying she's lying about how she feels to manipulate how you feel. Danger!
 
  • #63
Huckleberry said:
A lot of attractive women are used to getting this kind of attention from men. It confuses them when men don't react that way. That's probably why she was interested in you. There's no guarantee that if you showed any interest that she would remain interested. A need for approval isn't attractive to men or women. The stereotypical attractive woman has her own issues with self-image that most guys don't understand. I find that it's too much effort to keep them off-balance enough to keep their interest. It's not real anyway because the interest is really about themselves. Crossing the friend zone with her would probably end badly. Who knows? It might even benefit her if you don't get caught up in the mess of the game when it comes crashing down all around her.

This is quite an accurate assessment. While I find her very attractive both physically and personality wise I have never been very interested in a relationship with her because I am fairly certain she would just get bored. She has gotten bored with and cheated on most of the guys she has dated that I knew. She is also now divorced for a third time with a kid this time out. While she is a really amazing woman I know I could not deal with her. And is one of the reasons why this sort of cat and mouse behavior in a woman bothers me.
 
  • #64
TheStatutoryApe said:
This is quite an accurate assessment. While I find her very attractive both physically and personality wise I have never been very interested in a relationship with her because I am fairly certain she would just get bored. She has gotten bored with and cheated on most of the guys she has dated that I knew. She is also now divorced for a third time with a kid this time out. While she is a really amazing woman I know I could not deal with her. And is one of the reasons why this sort of cat and mouse behavior in a woman bothers me.

Infidelity is the reason why a need for approval is unnatractive. They crave the attention. Like any drug, each hit has to be bigger than the next.

You're probably best not getting involved, but I'm sure it would really blow her mind if a guy was into her without being at all possessive. "You want to take some guy from a bar home? Go for it. Want to hook up with my friends? Sure, no problem." Every time she would be unfaithful would increase her interest in the guy she was being unfaithful to. It would drive her nuts. People are messed up. Somehow I don't think you're that type of guy though. Would she get defensive if you brought up the subject of her need for approval? She probably feels very lonely.
 
  • #65
Huckleberry said:
Infidelity is the reason why a need for approval is unnatractive. They crave the attention. Like any drug, each hit has to be bigger than the next.

You're probably best not getting involved, but I'm sure it would really blow her mind if a guy was into her without being at all possessive. "You want to take some guy from a bar home? Go for it. Want to hook up with my friends? Sure, no problem." Every time she would be unfaithful would increase her interest in the guy she was being unfaithful to. It would drive her nuts. People are messed up. Somehow I don't think you're that type of guy though. Would she get defensive if you brought up the subject of her need for approval? She probably feels very lonely.
Ah. Uh. Sharing? To my eye, this is much more revealing about you than about women.
 
  • #66
I think the opposite sex takes it as obvious...I mean, yeah he's looking at me, so what?...guys do look.
 
  • #67
Huckleberry said:
Infidelity is the reason why a need for approval is unnatractive. They crave the attention. Like any drug, each hit has to be bigger than the next.

You're probably best not getting involved, but I'm sure it would really blow her mind if a guy was into her without being at all possessive. "You want to take some guy from a bar home? Go for it. Want to hook up with my friends? Sure, no problem." Every time she would be unfaithful would increase her interest in the guy she was being unfaithful to. It would drive her nuts. People are messed up. Somehow I don't think you're that type of guy though. Would she get defensive if you brought up the subject of her need for approval? She probably feels very lonely.
She is actually dating a friend of ours right now. He's a really nice guy and rather hands off about life in general, though I doubt he would be ok with her sleeping with other guys. And he's sort of exciting in a way. He has been 'on the road' quite a bit. They started their relationship I think when she went to visit him at the ranch in south america he had been living on.
Depending on her mood she may not like it being brought up. The thing with her is that she realizes she has a problem and wants to fix it. I think that having a child to take care of has calmed her down a lot. She seems to be getting along in her relationship with our friend quite well last I checked. I'm hoping to go see them soon since my knew apartment will only be a few blocks from them.

DaveC426913 said:
Ah. Uh. Sharing? To my eye, this is much more revealing about you than about women.
Haha, the funny thing is that I have met people who had relationships like this. They obviously don't generally last but seem to work about as well as most. I think Huck is a people watcher with a tendency to dissect, I don't think that his comments say much of anything else about him.
 
  • #68
DaveC426913 said:
Ah. Uh. Sharing? To my eye, this is much more revealing about you than about women.
In the scenario am I the one cheating or the one being cheated on?

I've seen this type of woman before. They make great friends, but terrible lovers. If I were to guess that she smokes and is maybe an alcoholic or drug addict would that also be self-revealing? Maybe because I have some experience with this sort of thing I recognize it in others. Only SA has any idea if I'm calling it as it is.

Yeah, I got my own disgusting Freudian approval issues. I just got tired of being defensive. I think SA's friend is too.
 
  • #69
TheStatutoryApe said:
I think a guy going out with a lady to the bar is generally a pretty good sign they are interested. Does it really require that the male give some further sign by being put in a situation where they must chase off other male contenders to get a lady's attention?

I don't think just going out to a bar together indicates attraction, at least not if there isn't any other communication of attraction to go with it. Though, to me, it's more of just rude behavior to go out someplace with another person...friend, date, casual acquaintance, coworker, whatever...and then leave them alone as you go play bar fly flirting with everyone else in the bar.
 
  • #70
TheStatutoryApe said:
Just in case any of you ladies out there were wondering, and I find that many seem to have an odd idea of showing a guy they are interested, going to a bar with a guy and immediately wandering off to flirt around and talk with other guys is not a very successful means of showing a guy that you are interested. Complaining afterward that none of those cute guys seemed interested in you is probably a bad idea too. Just so you know. ;-)

Aah, that brings back one of my favorite dating memories from my early 20's. Not only did we happen to go to a bar together, it was towards the end of a definite date.

At least she didn't complain to me afterward, though. I wonder if she complained about me to whoever she found to give her a ride home. I probably should have at least said, "Bye".

Not the most mature response, I guess, but I wasn't very mature in my early 20's. :smile:
 
  • #71
BobG said:
Aah, that brings back one of my favorite dating memories from my early 20's. Not only did we happen to go to a bar together,
That makes you no less than 94.

[EDIT: Oh. Your early 20's, not the early 20's. Oops.]
 
  • #72
This is one thing that always puzzles me. If a person is really so hard to understand and communicate with, why do you want them? What kind of relationship do you expect to have with them?

I look at guys and girls all the time, but the reasons are usually different.

Most of my friends are guys, and the people that I work with are guys, so checking out girls has just become a habit. But this looking is a purely physical judging. I suppose people don't generally like to be judged, so maybe that is why getting "caught" is embarrassing. I'm very sly, and they probably don't suspect me because I am a girl, so I can't recall a time that I got caught. But if I did, my reaction would probably depend on hers. If she didn't care, I wouldn't. If she seemed upset, I might feign an apologetic smile. Now that I think about this behavior, I might not do it anymore. It doesn't seem entirely nice. I think it gradually developed as a form of entertainment rather than starting as a mission to judge people.

When I look at guys, it's usually because I am curious about them, and them noticing me is usually a good thing because it gives me the opportunity to learn more about them. I usually smile when this happens.

I don't mind guys (or girls) checking me out. I don't assume they mean any harm by it. Saying things of the "hey baby" variety, especially yelling them, is annoying sometimes, but oh well. You can't expect everyone to do what you want. It seems that, in a public place, telling someone what they can and can't look at is more of an encroachment on an individual's rights than is having to be looked at. As long as you aren't staring at people through their bedroom window or somewhere where they have an expectation of privacy, I don't think you need to worry.

DaveC426913 said:
This may be a sexist viewpoint, but I'll stand by it:

Women cannot afford to date just anyone. When they say they can't get a date, they mean they can't get one that's acceptable. I'm not talking about standards of attractiveness, I'm talking about safety and security of the situation. While many women are quite capable of handling themselves if need be, the majority would rather crawl across hot coals than to be in a situation where they must handle themselves.
Are the women that you know really that worried about safety? I am generally very cautious, but I have ended up bringing all of my dates recently -- first dates -- back to my apartment, at night, where I live alone. And I didn't really think anything of it until afterward, when it seemed much less safe. So I wonder how many rejections occur out of a concern for safety. Of course, I suppose I don't go on dates with people who seem creepy, so maybe that explains it.
 
  • #73
honestrosewater said:
Are the women that you know really that worried about safety? I am generally very cautious, but I have ended up bringing all of my dates recently -- first dates -- back to my apartment, at night, where I live alone. And I didn't really think anything of it until afterward, when it seemed much less safe. So I wonder how many rejections occur out of a concern for safety. Of course, I suppose I don't go on dates with people who seem creepy, so maybe that explains it.

I was really more talking about a chance encounter - an attempted pickup. And I didn't mean Safety with a capital S, like assault, though yes that's there, I meant safety like: who wants to have to size up a guy when 10 seconds ago you were just trying to pass your exam.
 
  • #74
qspeechc said:
So I was studying in the library, and I noticed this very beautiful girl a few rows down, and I was kinda staring at her (... ok yes, I was staring), and then she looked up and caught me staring at her. I mean, it's only natural to stare at attractive people, isn't it? It's their fault their so good looking! Anyway, I blushed (I could feel the heat in my cheeks), looked away, and ducked my head under the little partitions between the desks. I ask you now: what is the correct response when caught staring at one of the opposite sex?
Also, do girls think it is flattering or disgusting when a guy stares at them?

I think this fellow got scared off. Or maybe somewhere along the way his question was answered. (Although, best I can tell from the most recent assortment of posts, the answer is, "Run! Don't look back; don't even try! Games ahead. Bad things. Swamp monsters. Ick!")

From this female's perspective, whenever I've caught someone staring at me, and I've smiled at them, and they smiled back and/or shrugged their shoulders and made a goofy face, it made me smile more. And then we went about our respective lives, and I felt really nice about the encounter. That's it. Simple.
 
  • #75
honestrosewater said:
This is one thing that always puzzles me. If a person is really so hard to understand and communicate with, why do you want them? What kind of relationship do you expect to have with them?

Great point! If it's that much work from the start, keep looking. When you find the right one, it's easy and comfortable to communicate.
 
  • #76
smile and carry on doing what your doing unless you have any intention of taking it further in my eye!

Nothing wrong with appreciating beauty! LOL!
 
  • #77
A-men! Just be a man and talk to her. If she is attracted, you will know... I have people staring at me all the time, I try to ignore them. Mostly because I have no clue why they are staring, a few are doing it right now (ps, I'm at college now, lol). I can see the point being made from both sides though... I am a normal lady, as normal as they come :biggrin:
 
  • #78
mcknia07 said:
A-men! Just be a man and talk to her. If she is attracted, you will know... I have people staring at me all the time, I try to ignore them. Mostly because I have no clue why they are staring, a few are doing it right now (ps, I'm at college now, lol). I can see the point being made from both sides though... I am a normal lady, as normal as they come :biggrin:

I'm like the OP and thought it was embarassing to get caught staring, so I usually looked away immediately, but everyone here agrees that its normal, not embarassing to stare. Besides, if she does smile back after she notices you staring at her, how would it not seem awkward to get out of your seat (if you two are in a library sitting at different tables) and then walk over to her to say something? What would you even say anyways? How would you know she's attracted to you?
 
  • #80
Does the "be a man" line ever work? I take it as a euphemism for finding courage rather than a sexist stereotype that propogates the adage that if a man isn't thinking with his genitals then he is acting directly on their behalf, among other similar unsavory colloquialisms. If the phrase applies to the sex of the recipient then it is derogitory to men, implying that he is less than he should be in order to motivate a particular response. If it applies to gender then it is derogitory to women, implying that the courage to act independently is not a quality expected of women. In the latter case we should all "be men", and yet that proposal does not seem at all satisfying to me. I have to admit I would be curious to see the reaction on a woman's face when I told her to be a man. It's a ridiculous expression, but I like it anyway.

Maybe women should approach men directly more often, especially if they intend to accuse men of not being men because they are shy. It's too easy to side-saddle rejection when it's penned. Then again, I think a woman in sweatpants and a hoodie is a huge turn-on.
 
  • #81
I prefer "take it like a man" or "man up" (or, if it's a challenge of epic proportions, "Jedi up"). Anyway, girls can be men too.

I did this volunteer thing a few months ago removing and planting plants on some islands. There was this really cute guy Charlie there. I managed to spend most of the day with him getting wet and dirty. We got along well, and he seemed to like me. I wanted to see him again, but before I knew it, it was time to leave, and I didn't have the opportunity to talk to him alone again. We didn't even ride back on the same boats. I ended up having to walk across the parking lot as everyone was packing up - and I swear everyone stopped and stared at me -- to give him my number. Actually, I gave him my email address so I could send him some pictures I had taken. It felt awkward, especially since some of the people there were my coworkers, but I manned up. And when he wrote me, I told him the main reason that I was hoping to hear from him and asked him out. He had to say no because he had a girlfriend, but he did mention being impressed by my guts.

I never hesitate to ask guys out. Just realize that dealing with them saying no is better than dealing with missed opportunities. And if they do something mean, you don't want them anyway.
 
  • #82
honestrosewater said:
I prefer "take it like a man" or "man up" (or, if it's a challenge of epic proportions, "Jedi up"). Anyway, girls can be men too.

I did this volunteer thing a few months ago removing and planting plants on some islands. There was this really cute guy Charlie there. I managed to spend most of the day with him getting wet and dirty. We got along well, and he seemed to like me. I wanted to see him again, but before I knew it, it was time to leave, and I didn't have the opportunity to talk to him alone again. We didn't even ride back on the same boats. I ended up having to walk across the parking lot as everyone was packing up - and I swear everyone stopped and stared at me -- to give him my number. Actually, I gave him my email address so I could send him some pictures I had taken. It felt awkward, especially since some of the people there were my coworkers, but I manned up. And when he wrote me, I told him the main reason that I was hoping to hear from him and asked him out. He had to say no because he had a girlfriend, but he did mention being impressed by my guts.

I never hesitate to ask guys out. Just realize that dealing with them saying no is better than dealing with missed opportunities. And if they do something mean, you don't want them anyway.

I know exactly what you're saying, and you're right. Maybe it's best not to put a gender in the term...instead of "man up" I say being bold or fearless.

Many years ago, I was studying in the library and looked up to "catch" a guy staring at me. He looked surprised for a split second, but held my gaze, and made the motion of drinking, and mouthed "Coffee?". Oh yes, that's bold and fearless. We dated for almost a year.
 
  • #83
honestrosewater said:
I prefer "take it like a man" or "man up" (or, if it's a challenge of epic proportions, "Jedi up"). Anyway, girls can be men too.

I did this volunteer thing a few months ago removing and planting plants on some islands. There was this really cute guy Charlie there. I managed to spend most of the day with him getting wet and dirty. We got along well, and he seemed to like me. I wanted to see him again, but before I knew it, it was time to leave, and I didn't have the opportunity to talk to him alone again. We didn't even ride back on the same boats. I ended up having to walk across the parking lot as everyone was packing up - and I swear everyone stopped and stared at me -- to give him my number. Actually, I gave him my email address so I could send him some pictures I had taken. It felt awkward, especially since some of the people there were my coworkers, but I manned up. And when he wrote me, I told him the main reason that I was hoping to hear from him and asked him out. He had to say no because he had a girlfriend, but he did mention being impressed by my guts.

I never hesitate to ask guys out. Just realize that dealing with them saying no is better than dealing with missed opportunities. And if they do something mean, you don't want them anyway.
Way to go!

I think I prefer "man up" or "take it like a man" too. That just seems to be asking for more of something that already exists, while "be a man" seems to insinuate inescapable cowardice. Eh, maybe there really is no difference and it's just how I've become familiar with the terms. I like that there are differences between genders. That's half the fun. I just don't like social expectations that limit a person's behaviour. I'd rather be aware of someone abusing their freedom of speech than be unaware of the one cowed into silence. I mean that as a matter of individual independence in the choice of cultural conventions, not a matter of judgement of others for personal safety.

I don't remember ever catching a woman staring at me. How do you girls do it? I do remember catching a man stare at me once. I had just finished an 11 mile hike with my cousin in the Madera Canyon region near the Fred Lawrence Whipple observatory. Our aunt came to pick us up and on the way back we went to Dairy Queen in Green Valley. I had been walking for hours in the sun and I'm all sweaty and dirty. My aunt said to me something like "Hey, I think that guy is checking you out." So I looked across the room and there is some rotund, red-faced man staring me down and twinkling his fingers at me. My aunt is like, "I think he likes you." I thought I was going to die right there. She never let me forget it and she's not even alive to remind me any more.
 
  • #84
Huckleberry said:
I don't remember ever catching a woman staring at me. How do you girls do it?

Some say women are more subtle about it but, especially after seeing the ladies responses here, I think they just play it off better. I have occasionally found young girls looking at me (particularly hispanic girls for some reason) but I can't really think of any time I have seen women who are not in their teens looking at me. I do however remember times that women seemed to be looking at me but after the first glance seemed to actually be looking at something behind me and I can think of many occasions where I looked at a woman, made immediate eye contact, and they just smiled and nodded and went about their business (much like the ladies here said should be done when 'caught'). In those instances I never really thought that maybe they were checking me out or anything like that. Or maybe I am just attractive mostly to underage mexican girls. :-/
 
  • #85
TheStatutoryApe said:
Some say women are more subtle about it but, especially after seeing the ladies responses here, I think they just play it off better. [snip] I do however remember times that women seemed to be looking at me but after the first glance seemed to actually be looking at something behind me and I can think of many occasions where I looked at a woman, made immediate eye contact, and they just smiled and nodded and went about their business (much like the ladies here said should be done when 'caught').

I think you may be catching on. It's no big deal. That's why women, in your words, "play it off better". It's not the catastrophic event the OP makes it out to be. (Unless you are young or super shy or some other factor I can't think of at this moment.)

People look at each other. You notice someone looking/someone notices you looking, no big deal. Acknowledge each other and get on with your life. Not hard.

Unless you were drooling while staring, making rude hand gestures, or thumping your back leg when a woman noticed you, you really have nothing to get worked about. (If you're doing any of the things I just listed, of course you should be embarrassed by your behaviour.)
 
  • #86
GeorginaS said:
I think you may be catching on. It's no big deal. That's why women, in your words, "play it off better". It's not the catastrophic event the OP makes it out to be. (Unless you are young or super shy or some other factor I can't think of at this moment.)
Except when we're still young too. Then we play it off by having another friend who is doing the staring saying, "Don't look now, but there's a REALLY HOT guy over there staring at you!" And then of course we look and catch the guy staring and giggle when he blushes and looks away, and then try to decide the best way to glance his way again to see if he looked again without him knowing we were staring back. :biggrin: Why do you think women carry around mirrors to check their noses while out in public? Those little mirrors sure aren't useful for actually applying make up. :smile: (Okay, I'm kidding...mostly...but teenaged girls can be pretty silly about these things too.)
 
  • #87
TheStatutoryApe said:
Some say women are more subtle about it but, especially after seeing the ladies responses here, I think they just play it off better. I have occasionally found young girls looking at me (particularly hispanic girls for some reason) but I can't really think of any time I have seen women who are not in their teens looking at me. I do however remember times that women seemed to be looking at me but after the first glance seemed to actually be looking at something behind me and I can think of many occasions where I looked at a woman, made immediate eye contact, and they just smiled and nodded and went about their business (much like the ladies here said should be done when 'caught'). In those instances I never really thought that maybe they were checking me out or anything like that. Or maybe I am just attractive mostly to underage mexican girls. :-/

Yeah, underage girls stare. I don't count that.

There are also times where I'll be talking with a woman and we're looking at each other, which is expected, and then the atmosphere quickly changes. There's a moment of silence like the calm before a storm, ionized air and dust kicked up from the first few raindrops, then lightning and thunder crack the sky. It's a strange sensation. I have no idea what was said or done to cause this change, but suddenly the stare is too intense for normal conversation, pupils locked in position and dilating like opening floodgates. They can be very awkward moments. It's like a hurricane that dropped in on your picnic unexpectedly. It's bizarre and uncomfortable, a definite fight or flight moment. My response is either "Check please!" spoken loudly enough so I don't have to turn my head to look for the waiter, or an imitation of a possum impersonating a dead fish.
 
  • #88
Staring together can be almost too personal, even if both parties accede. The first time I fell in love was by a mutual stare from across the room ("Some enchanted evening...").

You'll know falling in love when you feel it. I've never shared that visual sensation since, though. Having a serious mental illness then, I botched the opportunity, although we had a few beautiful moments together, such as my (objectively) seeing her irises pulsing to her heartbeat.

As I have said in previous threads, the fear response can be like that of attraction. Love is scary.
 
  • #89
Huckleberry said:
My response is either "Check please!" spoken loudly enough so I don't have to turn my head to look for the waiter, or an imitation of a possum impersonating a dead fish.

That made me laugh :smile:.
 
  • #90
Huckleberry said:
I don't remember ever catching a woman staring at me. How do you girls do it?
I don't turn my head in the direction that I'm looking. And I always have an alibi, something that I can pretend to be doing if they look my way. Maybe I also have fast reflexes. And if they happen to look at me, I act like I don't notice or that it was a coincidence. I avoid any sudden reactions, e.g., turning my head away. That is a dead giveaway. Paying attention to the direction that your head is facing is probably the biggest thing people could do to improve their slyness. I notice guys all the time (looking at me or at other girls) because of their failing to pay attention to this.
 
  • #91
doesn't matter. it's not rude to look, only to linger. there were several nice buns on display at the gym last night, shrink-wrapped in tight stretchy fabric. not a long-tailed shirt of modesty in the bunch.
 
  • #92
Huckleberry said:
I don't remember ever catching a woman staring at me.
I caught a woman checking me out from behind once (it sure doesn't happen often, so I don't often get a chance to blow that horn). We walked past each other on the sidewalk. She was cute enough for me to risk checking if the caboose matched the loco - and I caught her looking around too. She whipped back so fast I'm sure she knew she was caught. Just the thing to brighten a man's day...
 
  • #93
honestrosewater said:
Paying attention to the direction that your head is facing is probably the biggest thing people could do to improve their slyness. I notice guys all the time (looking at me or at other girls) because of their failing to pay attention to this.
I am a terrible starer. And I become very aware that my movements, even in the target's peripheral vision, are unmistakable. Even my eyes are wide to gather every detail in.

Nothing like a woman walking past you and your head following her through 120 degrees like you were a radar dish.
 
  • #94
What I do when I get caught staring at a girl is point at something behind her. When she turns to see what I am pointing at, I make a break for it.
 
  • #95
I just stare openly. If they think I'm a pervy creep so what? Girls are good to look at it. Damn, they're continually eyeing each other up themselves, reading those stupid magazines all the time & judging each other's looks etc. I just stare and I don't care. I'm a pervy creep so what!?
 
  • #96
Cryptonic said:
I just stare and I don't care. I'm a pervy creep so what!?
Well, at the very least, in a larger-picture perspective of your life, how does this behaviour contribute to you getting laid as frequently as possible?
 
  • #97
I don't think there is any harm in appreciating what you see... At the end of the day its not always about wanting to talk to them I am happily married, but appreciating a beauty is something that's natural, we all have eyes don't we!
 
  • #98
JoVieira said:
I don't think there is any harm in appreciating what you see... At the end of the day its not always about wanting to talk to them I am happily married, but appreciating a beauty is something that's natural, we all have eyes don't we!
The harm comes in treating a human being as if ihe/she is a piece of scenery.
 
  • #99
Meh women look just as much as men! I have 5 sisters and trust me they are at it too!

Its different to admire beauty than too look as if you are about to pounce on them!
 
  • #100
JoVieira said:
Im happily married, but ...
This is a telling comment. It could be construed that you are more concerned about the consequences upon yourself than upon the subject of your attentions.

JoVieira said:
Meh women look just as much as men! I have 5 sisters and trust me they are at it too!
Yes. No one suggested it was a male-female thing. It's a person-meat thing.
JoVieira said:
Its different to admire beauty than too look as if you are about to pounce on them!
That may seem like a big difference from behind your eyes. The issue is: how does the subject feel about it? The danger is that when viewing them as just a piece of walking scenery, you are not thinking about how that person might feel about your attentions.

I'm not trying to make a federal case out of it, but you did ask the question 'what's the harm?'
 
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