Center of mass of cone using cylindrical coordinates

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The discussion focuses on setting up the integral expression for the center of mass of a cone using cylindrical coordinates, specifically with height H and radius R. The participants clarify the integration order and limits, emphasizing that the radius r varies with height z, necessitating the use of the cone's equation, Z=(H/R)r, for accurate limits. The correct integral setup for the numerator is confirmed as ∫∫∫ z r dz dr dθ, with the volume of the cone being V = (1/3)πR²H. Proper execution of these integrals is essential for obtaining the correct center of mass.

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Homework Statement

Set up intergral expression for center of mass of a cone using cylindrical coordinates with a given height H and radius R



Homework Equations


rdrddθdz is part of the inter grand. M/V=D volume of cone is 1/3π(r^2)H



The Attempt at a Solution



dm=Kdv dv=drdθdx K is just a constant because it is uniform density and mass. ∫∫∫zdrdθdz
z=z. Equation for cone in cylindrical coordinates is Z=(H/R)r. The top is bounded by Z=H. The angle is from o to 2π and the radius is square root of H^2+R^2. Once I take this integral I then divide by the same integral but instead there is no extra z in the inter grand. After all is set in done I get the wrong answer. I believe my initial set up might be wrong. Can anyone verify that or give a helpful suggestion thanks.
 
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Hard to follow but what did you use for your lower limit on the inside dz integral?

[Edit: Woops I misread your order of integration... wait a sec...Ok, if you integrate dr first, r goes from zero to the cone. What did you use for r on the cone?
 
for r I used the square root of H^2+R^2
 
xdrgnh said:
for r I used the square root of H^2+R^2

But that is a constant. The radius varies as z moves up the cone. Use the equation of the cone to get r in terms of z for your lower limit.
 
I used that for the dr for the dz I used H/R(r) as the lower limit.
 
xdrgnh said:
I used that for the dr for the dz I used H/R(r) as the lower limit.

Your integrals are showing r dr dθ dz in that order. In that order you would integrate z last and its limits must be constant. Order matters so what order are you using?

\int_{lower}^{upper}\int_{lower}^{upper}\int_{lower}^{upper} (...)rd?d?d?

Quote this in your reply and fill in between the brackets and the question marks with what you did. Then it will be easy to see what you did wrong.
 
LCKurtz said:
Your integrals are showing r dr dθ dz in that order. In that order you would integrate z last and its limits must be constant. Order matters so what order are you using?

\int_{(H/R)r}^{H}\int_{0}^{2∏}\int_{0}^{R} (...)rd?d?d?

Quote this in your reply and fill in between the brackets and the question marks with what you did. Then it will be easy to see what you did wrong.
\int_{0}^{2∏}\int_{0}^{R}\int_{(H/R)r}^{H} (...) zrdzdrdθ
 
xdrgnh said:
\int_{0}^{2∏}\int_{0}^{R}\int_{(H/R)r}^{H} zrdzdrdθ

OK. That integral is correct for your numerator when calculating \bar z. When you divide it by the volume you should get \bar z providing you don't make any algebra mistakes. Good luck, I have to go now.
 

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