Centre of gravity for multiple objects

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The discussion revolves around calculating the center of gravity for a framework containing multiple crates, specifically focusing on a setup with four crates of equal mass positioned at different distances from a support point. The original poster presents their calculations and seeks validation of their approach.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the center of gravity using a weighted average approach based on the distances of the crates from a support point. Some participants question the accuracy of the calculations and suggest re-evaluating the setup and assumptions made regarding the distances and masses involved.

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Participants are actively engaging in correcting calculations and discussing the implications of the center of gravity in relation to balance. There is a mix of validation and correction of the original poster's approach, with some guidance offered on the importance of visualizing the problem through diagrams.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the potential for simple arithmetic errors and emphasize the importance of understanding the balance-point rule in the context of the problem. The original poster mentions challenges with educational materials, which may influence their understanding of the concepts involved.

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Hi. This is my first post so apologies if I do anything wrong.

I have a homework question.

*calculate the distance of the centre of gravity from support A for a framework containing 4 crates at 52kg per crate.

I'll describe the diagram:

A is on the far left. 3m from A are 2 crates stacked on each other (so 104kg), 6m from A there is another crate, then another crate at 9m from A.
I'm disregarding support B at 12m from A.

My answer is that as the crates ate the same mass, we'll call them m.
I'll use x as the unknown distance I'm looking for. So:

3 (2m) + 6 (m) + 9 (m)

19m = 5mx
x = 3.8m

So the centre of gravity is 3.8m from point A.
Am I correct?

As I've seen pop up a few times on here I'm studying with ICS and they're...a little lacking in quality educational material so I've had to work it out on my own so if I'm shockingly incorrect a point in the right direction would be great.

Thanks.
 
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Welcome to PF;
Does the answer make sense?

All masses are in a line? ... imagine they are sitting on a beam and don't worry about the supports for now.
The center of gravity is the position x where you would put a pivot and the beam would balance.

x=3.8m is 0.8m to the right of the 2 stacked crates ... a single crate 1.6m on the other side would balance it, but you have two crates much further away than that so the whole thing tips over clockwise.

If you sketch it out to scale and draw in a pivot at your value for x, you intuition should tell you the same. The same intuition should give you an idea of where the pivot should go, which will tell you if your maths comes out right.
 
You analyzed it pretty OK, but you have to do the math correctly. The left hand side of your equation should be 21m, and the right hand side should be 4mx (you only had 4 crates, not 5).

Incidentally, Welcome to Physics Forums!

Chet
 
Doh! Maybe I should learn to add up first. Sigh...

So let's try that again.
3 (2m) + 6 ( m ) + 9 ( m )
21m = 4mx
x = 5.25

I've drawn a diagram and 5.25 metres from A as a fulcrum looks like it world balance so I think this is right.

Thanks for the help guys. I'll return the favour one day, when I've learned to add up obviously. How embarrassing.
 
*Would balance.

Seems I can't spell either. Not my finest hour I have to say.
 
2am effect? - have another coffee ;)
I've drawn a diagram and 5.25 metres from A as a fulcrum looks like it world balance so I think this is right.
... diagrams are the backbone of physics :)

If you rely too much on remembering equations, you cna get tied up in simple mistakes like this.
If you remembered about the balance-point rule, that wouldn't happen. Also you would not need to memorize the equation. Just remember that the sum of the moments must be zero.
 

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