Centre of gravity of a 3D irregular object

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The discussion revolves around determining the center of gravity (COG) of a 3D irregular object, specifically a gearbox. The original poster seeks methods to find the three coordinates of the COG using various mounting techniques and measurements.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster describes using the moment method by mounting the gearbox at two ends to find one coordinate, but struggles to identify a third coordinate. They inquire about alternative methods for determining all three coordinates.
  • Some participants suggest using a string or balancing method to obtain a third measurement, while others emphasize the complexity due to the gearbox's components.
  • Questions arise regarding the feasibility of hanging the gearbox and the risks involved in such methods.

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Raghavendar Balaji
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Homework Statement


A complex or irregular body with some mass, m. How to determine the 3 co-ordinates of centre of gravity?

Homework Equations


Moment method with ∑M = 0.

The Attempt at a Solution


Say I have a gearbox and I need to find the COG. I can mount the gearbox at two longitudinal ends and find one co-ordinate of COG through force acting in one end and entire weight of body acting at some distance in between, through moment method. I can then mount it upside down with the clutch part on the bottom and repeat the procedure. This way I can take the intersection of the two planes of probable COG and get a line at the intersection. But to find the 3rd co-ordinate is proving difficult. Is there any way to find the 3rd co-ordinate or any other totally different way to find all the 3 co-ordinates? Please help people. Thanks in advance!

P.S - I thought of mounting in another direction to get the third intersection too, but the mounting gets difficult. So for the gearbox or any other irregular body in general would be rather helpful. :)
 
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Raghavendar Balaji said:
I thought of mounting in another direction to get the third intersection too, but the mounting gets difficult.
Well, that is an engineering issue. To measure it you'll need a third input in some way. Mounting it on a string (free to move in two dimensions) or balancing it on something (similar) would help as well.
You can also calculate it if you know the components well enough.
 
mfb said:
Well, that is an engineering issue. To measure it you'll need a third input in some way. Mounting it on a string (free to move in two dimensions) or balancing it on something (similar) would help as well.
You can also calculate it if you know the components well enough.
Hi, thanks for the suggestion. In case of an engine or a gearbox, there are lots of components so it's totally complex but balancing can be tried but, do you have any other method or suggestion to solve this problem?
 
Can you hang the gearbox from a wire?
 
Exactly my point. It's highly risky but it can be tried though it might not be possible in all directions. So I'm out of ideas.
 
Hanging it from a string/wire and one additional measurement along a different axis would be sufficient.

You can also mount the whole device into a more sturdy frame (using any attachment points you like) if you know the mass and center of mass of this more sturdy frame. Ideally it has a small mass.
 
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mfb said:
Hanging it from a string/wire and one additional measurement along a different axis would be sufficient.

You can also mount the whole device into a more sturdy frame (using any attachment points you like) if you know the mass and center of mass of this more sturdy frame. Ideally it has a small mass.

Oh thank you! I think that might work! Thanks for the suggestion!
 

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