Centripetal Force on Pendulum: My View

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The discussion centers around the concept of centripetal force in the context of a pendulum's motion. Participants explore the forces acting on the mass of the pendulum and how these forces contribute to its circular motion.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the components of forces acting on the pendulum mass, including weight and tension, and how these relate to centripetal force. Questions arise regarding the nature of the net force and the role of tension in maintaining circular motion.

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There is an active exploration of the relationship between centripetal force and the net forces acting on the pendulum mass. Participants are clarifying misconceptions about the nature of these forces and their components, with some guidance provided on the distinction between centripetal force and net force.

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Participants are examining the dynamics of a pendulum under the assumption that the pivot remains stationary, which influences their understanding of the forces involved.

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Is there a centripetal force with a pendulum? My view is that mg acts on the mass (for angles lower than 90) with two components. One that is parrallel to the string and another that is perpendicualr to it. Since the center of the pendulum mechanism stays still, by action reaction this component is canceled out on the mass. For a time that goes to zero the mass moves in the direction that was perpendicular to the string. But since the string moves along with the mass, the direction of the mass (which is perpendicular to the string) changes constantly and the result is a circular motion. Is this perception correct or not?
 
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Yes, there's a net centripetal force on the mass, as there must be since the mass moves in a circle around the pivot. The force is NOT constant, though, since the speed of the pendulum varies during the swing. The centripetal force at any time is the vector sum of the weight force and the string tension force.
 
While there's certainly a centripetal force on the mass, it's not the net force. (It's the net force in the radial direction.) The acceleration of the mass--and thus the force on the mass--has both tangential and radial components.
 
And this force would be the weight?
 
Two forces act on the mass in a pendulum: the weight and the tension in the string. The vector sum of these forces is the net force on the mass.
 
You're right, Doc Al. The centripetal force is not the net force, since the net force has a tangential component, too.
 
Okay. And this tension is due to the fact that the center of the pendulum stays still, right?
 
Werg22 said:
And this tension is due to the fact that the center of the pendulum stays still, right?
It's due to the fact that one end of the string is fixed while the other end is attached to the swinging mass.
 

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